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Maroon Baboon Maroon Baboon OP
Mar 07, 2025 at 11:46 PM ET
Conference affiliation notwithstanding, how is VT positioned for the new
era of college football? Under the old metric, I think we looked pretty good. Passionate fan base. Big stadium. Great home attendance. Travel fairly well. History of winning in football. From a growing wealthy state. Among other advantages. But what about this new era coming? NIL, etc. How do we look in terms of competitiveness? Do we have the type of fan base with deep pockets willing to spend? I know what conference we end up in will be important, but let's leave that out of the conversation for now, since it's something we can't really control. It seems some schools that won't end up in the P2 will be willing to spend big time to compete. What is your assessment of VT moving forward?

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HokieNoVA
Very poorly. Those old metrics allowed VT to punch above its weight class
and compete with the much larger, wealthier universities. At least for a while. Its still nice to have a passionate fanbase, good stadium atmosphere, etc but that stuff is largely optional and not enough to get you over the top. Not even close. ** Edited by HokieNoVA at 3/9/2025, 6:34:46 PM
MP4VT2004 MP4VT2004
I look forward to re-engaging as a fan whenever VT lands in an...
...athletic conference that participates in amateur athletics. I think VT will have success again then.
Gator Hokie Gator Hokie
Poor
The stadium size alone is almost 40,000 less than it should be for true power football consideration. There are maybe 15-20 schools that could hang.
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RiverVT
Not too good with the current Leadership!
Techs best days are behind them . Zero out reach to the Alumni Zero marketing and promotion Zero strategy! All we have is Enter Sandman
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VPI 1924
You are right!
I’ve never heard from the athletic department. Do we have one??
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Marooned
Irrespective of on field success, which is huge of course
VT needs to build on our heritage and the uniqueness of our brand. We had the lunch pail defense and we were DBU for many years. We need to resurrect that as our identity nationally. People should tune in to see us deliver wicked hits and play lights out football. Otherwise, we’re just another state school with a program that had some star power and a great coach that fell back to earth.
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Athens
VT should be no worse than 4th most attractive in the ACC. Can argue #1
Most metrics have FSU, Clemson and UNC above VT in getting a P2 slot with some having Miami above. There's a good argument why VT should be the #1 target for SEC or BIG. 1. FSU - BIG doesn't care because they're not AAU. SEC doesn't care because they add nothing that UGA and Florida don't already bring. Proven to be a cancer and brings baggage of not being a team player. Will FSU sue SEC/BIG when things don't go their way or that they deserve more money than Vandy or Rutgers? 2. Clemson - same as FSU but replace Florida with USC. 3. UNC - Huge MBB brand but realignment is all about football and UNC falls way short. People love to talk about their potential to be a top program, but their ceiling is no higher than VT's. If you look at overall athletics, UNC is nothing special outside MBB and some women's sports but no one cares about those in realignment. 4. Miami - Mind boggling how anyone finds them to be attractive. VT has a much stronger program, fan support and alumni base (so does almost half the ACC). Miami is only being carried by its legacy that died 20 years ago. VT - football is #1 priority and a makes lots of money, unparalleled and passionate fan support despite the program struggling for a while, huge and wealthy and influential alumni base up and down the entire east coast, shares same cultural values as SEC schools, natural rivalries with several existing SEC schools, top academics in STEM. Zero reason why VT shouldn't be the #1 target in realignment. Only thing holding VT back is state politics.
Maroon Baboon Maroon Baboon OP
AAU and FSU
Purportedly, AAU isn't an official requirement for invitation to the Big Ten. But we know it means a lot. VT doesn't have AAU, but it probably should already. But I digress. Anyway, FSU fans think they are on the cusp of an invite. They make statements like "we will have it by 2029" as if it's something automatic that you just get if you check off some boxes. They act like they are applying for a fishing licence or something. BTW, it seems to me that VT and NC State, among ACC brethren, are more deserving of AAU invite than FSU. But what do I know. The AAU keeps moving the goal posts. I also think FSU fans are half chapped that Miami was just granted AAU status recently instead of them. Up till then, they were measuring for curtains in the Big Ten office. ** Edited by Maroon Baboon at 3/8/2025, 2:12:41 PM
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Stech
"They act like they are applying for a fishing license". :-)
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EDGEMAN
There were several "head scrachers" on the last AAU invitation list.
Going by research $$$$$, only one school had more than VT, and that was ASU. At least one had
seekoHoG seekoHoG
Research dollars are an important consideration but in the past,
as it was described to me, the makeup of the faculty has not met the standards for AAU membership. I assume that means their individual accomplishments have not put them at the top in their field of study. It seems rather snobbish to me.
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HokieNoVA
And ASU does have the correct faculty? Their academics are a punchline.
I realize that sounds snobbish as well, but they do have a 90% acceptance rate.
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RandomAsianGuy
Very strong M2 school. Not the first choice for P2 conferences
Maroon Baboon Maroon Baboon OP
What is the M2? The ACC and the Big XII? Never heard that before.
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hokieZ71
Mid 2. As opposed to the Power 2. VT is mid
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VTCALS72
Exactly and this new ACC deal seems to be a great benefit to
the strong (what you call) M2 schools in the ACC.