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TerryD OP
Jul 18, 2022 at 03:34 PM ET
ND seeking $75 million a year media deal to stay independent
"Notre Dame would remain independent if it can earn at least $75 million annually in media rights revenue from current broadcast partner NBC, sources told CBS Sports. The Fighting Irish's deal with the network is set to expire in 2025. For NBC to feel comfortable raising Notre Dame's valuation to such a level, it is seeking "shoulder programming" from a Power Five conference to enhance its college football coverage. When that had previously been speculated, the Big Ten was the conference mentioned most often as a target. However, the Big 12 has emerged as a strong option to fill NBC's shoulder programming needs." NBC's negotiations are expected to extend across the next 2-3 weeks, according to a source. The network has been the rightsholder for Notre Dame home football games since 1991. The current deal averages $15 million per year, but Notre Dame is currently earning $22 million annually due to the backloaded nature of the contract." ** Edited by TerryD at 7/18/2022, 3:42:03 PM

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HOO86
Here is an article making the case for ND to Join the ACC
I haven't seen one of these in a while. And it's coming from a ND site. Basically says ND could convince Stanford and Navy to come with them, and 1 other possibly Oregon. I don't think those schools will like being on an island. But could be wrong. It does say that the Big Ten is the most likely home, but this author doesn't really like that choice. I'm not optimistic that Notre Dame will ever join the ACC, but this is an interesting thought.
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PaNDalum
I’m surprised no one has said what seems obvious to me
“Hey Notre Dame alumni, fans - see we tried but no one could even come close to the B1G” we had no choice but to join the B1G” Love, Father Jenkins and Jack This whole thing makes me profoundly sad for many reasons not the least of which how this ND ACC relationship will end.
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Truthahn
Not obvious. It seems like ND could make way more continuing as independent
As a sought after independent they can play almost every game at home (or a home game moved to a neutral site, such as Navy in Dublin or BYU in Las Vegas). Excluding USC/Stanford/ACC away games (just 3 or 4 total away games per year), every one of their games could and should be on their own TV contract .
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Sunsetunderground
Dont be so quick to assume Big 10
This ND article appears to be laying the groundwork for the ACC. It would be sad to see ND sell its soul to the Big Bad 10. They are a much better fit in the ACC if the money gap can be addressed.
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goldendomer goldendomer
UHND articles are not really worth anything.
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TerryD OP
Its the worst ND site
Its "writers" are mainly just fanboys.
goldendomer goldendomer
They're all fan-boy writers on that site, i was being generous. haha
goldendomer goldendomer
The cynic in me first went there. It could be true.
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HOO86
ESPN usually has an Exclusivity Window in its deals to renegotiate
If the Big XII deal expires in 2025, I don't know how they can talk with NBC for a while. I'd imagine Fox Sports has a similar Exclusivity Window. This is unless due to the exit of Texas and Oklahoma triggered some clause in their agreement that allows it.
HokieAl HokieAl
Is this ND pushing back on the BIG and saying you don't need them?
or is it just ND trying to cash in while they are in a position of power? It certainly gives them loads of flexibility in deciding what to do in the future, if NBC agrees.
goldendomer goldendomer
It is a leverage play. We have it. Give us what we want or we are gone.
MrBayAreaHokie MrBayAreaHokie
helps keep NBC relevant in CFB...I bet you get it
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Sunsetunderground
Not so fast my friend
Going from $15m per year to $11m per game. Plus NBC would need to fund an entire new conference at P5 rates. I dont know if they are that committed to college football.
goldendomer goldendomer
Good chance, but this will create more instability within
the ACC. ND will be near double all the other schools. This will not sit well.
MrBayAreaHokie MrBayAreaHokie
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TerryD OP
I want to Tac Shave underwater
Um, no, not really.
goldendomer goldendomer
That is a huge ask. If they owned all our right we would
be asking between 130-140 million.
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Sunsetunderground
So does this mean if they dont get that amount they are joining a conferenc
Sure sounds like it.
Maroon Baboon Maroon Baboon
Link didn't work for me. Can you summarize?
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TerryD OP
Sure
"Notre Dame would remain independent if it can earn at least $75 million annually in media rights revenue from current broadcast partner NBC, sources told CBS Sports. The Fighting Irish's deal with the network is set to expire in 2025. For NBC to feel comfortable raising Notre Dame's valuation to such a level, it is seeking "shoulder programming" from a Power Five conference to enhance its college football coverage. When that had previously been speculated, the Big Ten was the conference mentioned most often as a target. However, the Big 12 has emerged as a strong option to fill NBC's shoulder programming needs. NBC's negotiations are expected to extend across the next 2-3 weeks, according to a source. The network has been the rightsholder for Notre Dame home football games since 1991. The current deal averages $15 million per year, but Notre Dame is currently earning $22 million annually due to the backloaded nature of the contract." lhttps://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/notre-dam...
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WarHog38
Interesting time schedule concerning Big 12 games
Just 2-3 years will still likely cover Oklahoma in Texas being in the Big 12. Then you have BYU and those AAC teams including Houston, Cincinnati and UCF all apparently entering the Big 12 in 2023. Those AAC teams will likely compete with Oklahoma & Texas for two years, at least for the year of 2023. Good background games for the Notre Dame channel for those few years.
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2hhoop3
Never hurts to ask......
but, if NBC gives the Irish $75 million they are ought to have their head examined. A three fold increase from the current $22 - $27 million given what the current ND product is and what the likely product will be over the agreement represents looney tunes.
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Truthahn
Why not? People are saying Rutgers and Maryland will soon be getting $100M.
At least ND brings the viewers.
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TerryD OP
Old NBC deal runs until 2025
Unless both sides agree to tear it up for a new one, Texas and Oklahoma will be gone before this would kick in.
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WarHog38
Didn't notice that stipulation
One then has to wonder why just the 2-3 year extension? ** Edited by WarHog38 at 7/18/2022, 4:58:37 PM
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TerryD OP
No extension
This would be a new deal beginning after 2025.
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WarHog38
I re-read that, I now see.
I can just cannot see NBC agreeing to that huge an increase in payment to Notre Dame. It looks like ND is just upping the ante to see exactly where they stand as an Independent versus joining a conference. ** Edited by WarHog38 at 7/18/2022, 6:32:42 PM
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33laszlo99
This is in line with SEC/B1G media money.
This IS the current market. It's why The PAC 12 couldn't keep their star players. It's why TX & OK ditched the Big 12. It's why 2036 is forever to ACC.
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TerryD OP
I am not following you
ND is nearing the end of the latest NBC deal that ran for 10 years from 2015-25. Previously, ND and NBC always signed 5 year deals from 1991-2015. We are talking, all of this, about a new NBC deal beginning in 2025. I guess is look for a new five year deal if it happens.
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WarHog38
Sorry, I did Edit that last comment. The Edit should momentarily show.
I re-read this thread. I see the large increase being asked by Notre Dame from NBC. I hope they get it. I think most SEC people want to see Notre Dame stay Independent and playing those five games within the ACC.