The money becomes the *only* point.

forgot to include the DI-FCS subdivision in your number.

In the current environment, if we got another Vick or Corey Moore, there is a huge risk that we can’t keep them. Between NIL and transfer portal, the odds are now significantly against us. And each year that goes by, we far farther behind in athletics revenue. I’d say we have a 5 year window to have some kind of change for VT or we are screwed for a very long time. The change could still be within the ACC. But something has to change.

join either the Big Ten and SEC? I'm not sure if the VTAD budget model or the fan base are ready to experience that scenario even if most believe it is the "right one" at this moment in time. Will it be the right one 10 years from now? 20 years from now? 50 years from now? 100 years from now? with now being that point in time the decision is made. People hate to see schools like Vandy or Minnesota benefit because they made a decision 100 or so years ago when they decided to be founding members of the SEC or Western Conference (aka the Big Ten). The decision VT makes today may very well be no different than whose schools made their decisions back then.

worse with NIL and the new P2 and the transfer portal. Not sure why we even bother any more. I'm usually a pretty optimistic person, but I don't see this ending well for Tech. At best, we're locked into a neutered ACC that can't compete with B10 and SEC for recruits. Now that regional conferences aren't really necessary, there are many other schools that currently would be more desirable than VT for the SEC (who many thought was a perfect fit for the SEC). 10 years ago, we could have picked our spot. Now, not so much.

VT offers the entire Virginia market. DMV/Tidewater/Richmond is bigger than LA. VT offers an incredible experience for SEC programs - lane is considered a top experience by everyone. We offer awesome competitive Olympic sports. Look at this year. I think we have a lot more to offer the SEC. Having said that, Chris Coleman’s article was pretty interesting on what VT fans would need to do to be relevant in SEC football. Given GOR, here is what I think will happen: ACC adds two Texas schools from the Big 12. Be happy with winning the conference every year. I’m a little sick of hearing about the value Clemson or uva brings to any conference. Clemson has only been relevant again in the last 10 years. Uva is only relevant in Olympic sports (and baseball). VT offers more than both.

articles from various sources that list the top 5 (or even 14 on one sight) schools that both the SEC and Big10 will/should go after. We are not named on one for either conference that I saw. Not exactly a vote of confidence or perceived value in my book. Again, I would be THRILLED to be proven wrong, but I'm not getting warm and fuzzies from the media and those in and about college football.

coming to the P2 without strap hangers. When Texas to the Pac-10 was a thing, they would have been taking, not just OU, but Colorado, Oklahoma State, Texas Tech and/or Baylor. When Miami came to the ACC, they brought BC, VT and later Pitt and Syracuse really. The scary think for all the ACC is that the P2 may get so top heavy, that they don't even need or consider Clemson, FSU or Virginia Tech. If you look at the P2 as one league, the only areas the ACC can offer that they don't already have are the mid Atlantic (VA and NC) and New England. But if the juggernaut gets so big, they might not even bother with those places. In a way, UNC might be the only brand that P2 really covets. South Carolina-Clemson? Georgia-Georgia Tech? "Meh, bigger rivalries have been lost" they might say. All in the name of "progress". ** Edited by Maroon Baboon at 7/2/2022, 6:00:37 PM

could end up being the P2's downfall. How many people outside of their base will watch or spend anything on a limited semi-pro league? Guessing this could easily alienate 40% or more of the overall CFB fanbase. It seems lucrative now and they'll sign giant contracts, but watch what happens when ratings start to suffer over time.

It makes no sense to cut off a substantial portion of your audience by just playing yourselves (B10/SEC). They might play the best football, but nobody will care out side of those areas when the “shot” to win games and play for a national title (as slim as that chance really is) goes away. Today the audience is built in to the season because the chance is always there for them to be one of those that can make it in. Just win your games. This ends with 50-60 football schools breaking away from the NCAA. VT and UVA will be 2 of them and they will go together.

It's a really interesting dynamic. One one hand, you have schools like UNC, Texas, Alabama, Ohio State, UCLA that are required to share equal distributions with respective teams like Wake Forest, Iowa State, Vanderbilt, Northwestern, and Washington State. However, if you kick out too much of the latter then you disenfranchise your base. Where do you draw the line? Clearly the teams mentioned are some of the lowest valued properties, but what about schools like Georgia Tech, California, UVA or Oklahoma State? If you have Mississippi State and Mississippi, but exclude these other schools then you're going to find out 20 years from now that you regionalized your sport and overall ratings will go down... and you've killed the golden goose.

just add up the fans and the followings of all those schools left out. I'm not just saying the ACC teams left behind. But also the BigXII, Pac12 and the G5 too. As one schools, it might not seem a big loss. But in the aggregate, it is a LOT of college football fans to piss off. WRT to your comment about regions being left out, we can through the Planes and the Mountain West onto the pile, And if the B1G poaching stops at Stanford and Notre Dame, we can add the Southwest and Pacific Northwest to the totals. Not only is it fundamentally unfair, but I think it is bad business.

Rutgers represents the NYC metro and the Northeast in general. LOL If Tech and other P-5 schools get left behind, I would hope that thier fans would avoid watching or suporting the P-2 semi-pro league. I haven't watched pro sports in years, so it won't be difficult for me to avoid the P-2 league. It would be wise for the fans of the lower P-5 schools to not watch the B1G or SEC unless they are playing the ACC/Big 12/Pac 12. Decreased ratings will concern ESPN/Fox Sports and their advertisers.

But yes, I will not watch ANY Super League games in Tech isn't invited. And even if Tech IS invited, I wouldn't blame fans of any team left out for not watching.

Good way to go out of business too.

The states of VA and NC do not get taken out by 1 of the P2, or divvied up between the 2.