I have information.....
both public and from insiders and one confirms the other.
It was Maryland first because (1)Wally Loh wanted the B1G, (2)MD was a shambles financially and (3) the TV market of DC/MD was the first piece to filling in the NE donut of the B1G TV footprint.
It was Rutgers second because (1)they were also weak financially and (2) they filled the northern part of the NE donut of the B1G TV footprint. With MD and Rutgers in addition to PSU they filled the NE corridor from DC to NY and at the time the only game on the B1G mind was the upcoming renegotiation of the media deal. Giving PSU neighborhood partners was an added benefit but, it was not about smoothing any hurt feelings at PSU over the Sandusky matter.
I am not doubting your colleague was given some story about UNC/UVA. Loh fed a lot of MD people BS to try and gain their support for the move as most were strongly against it. Fact is there was no time for the communication asserted to have taken place with UNC/UVA/GT in context of getting the deal done and maintaining the secrecy until the deal was done. If you check you will find the MD deal was approved by the board on a Monday and Rutgers followed suit the next day.
Internally, Swofford tried to get Loh to slow down and see if there was an alternative but, the deal was done in Loh's mind.
From a public perspective, you can Google and read a variety of interviews from that time on ESPN and various other publications through Delany's retirement perspective in the Athletic(2020 I think if memory serves). They confirm what I was told by people actually close enough to know and have shared with you above. None of that ever hinted at a play for UNC/UVA/GT. I think you will find if you check with your colleague that Duke, considered by some Maryland fans as their primary basketball rival was also thrown in those stories to gain acceptance from the Maryland fan base.
It bothers me not that Maryland left but, rather how they left. The stories, like the one you were told, were fantasy concocted to soften the opposition to the move within the Maryland fan base.
Thread Replies (40)
When did expansion stop being about football? I missed that if it happened.
-- Stech
Dec 13, 2023 at 01:46 PM ET
Stech
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12/13/23 01:46 PM ET
When the expanders get/got all the football teams they think they need**
-- VTCALS72
Dec 13, 2023 at 04:52 PM ET
VTCALS72
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12/13/23 04:52 PM ET
Show me the evidence of that please.**
-- Stech
Dec 13, 2023 at 05:00 PM ET
Stech
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12/13/23 05:00 PM ET
Oh come on, there is no "evidence" on this either way
-- VTCALS72
Dec 13, 2023 at 05:14 PM ET
VTCALS72
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12/13/23 05:14 PM ET
No evidence is the come on, where are you getting the basketball schools
-- Stech
Dec 13, 2023 at 05:38 PM ET
Stech
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12/13/23 05:38 PM ET
Ok, you asked why I am saying that. So, you asked for my opinion.
-- VTCALS72
Dec 13, 2023 at 06:45 PM ET
VTCALS72
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12/13/23 06:45 PM ET
It’s your opinion, I respect you for saying that. Thanks!**
-- Stech
Dec 13, 2023 at 07:28 PM ET
Stech
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12/13/23 07:28 PM ET
That is what you asked for :-)
-- VTCALS72
Dec 13, 2023 at 08:04 PM ET
VTCALS72
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12/13/23 08:04 PM ET
I don’t think th ACC GOR can’t be broken any time soon without the majority
-- Stech
Dec 13, 2023 at 11:14 PM ET
Stech
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12/13/23 11:14 PM ET
I agree with this **
-- HokiesACC2004
Dec 14, 2023 at 08:58 AM ET
HokiesACC2004
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12/14/23 08:58 AM ET
Evidently, VT isn't that big of prize for whatever reason. Partly due
-- reestuart
Dec 13, 2023 at 02:49 PM ET
reestuart
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12/13/23 02:49 PM ET
100% it is UNC, FSU and ND...
-- jesuisvtguy
Dec 13, 2023 at 07:20 PM ET
jesuisvtguy
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12/13/23 07:20 PM ET
Right now the money is in football ratings!! USC IMHO wanted UCLA , so B1G
-- Stech
Dec 14, 2023 at 09:11 AM ET
Stech
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12/14/23 09:11 AM ET
This reminds me of fivethirtyeight.com analysis of B1G expansion candidates
-- tarheelblue
Dec 13, 2023 at 07:32 PM ET
tarheelblue
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12/13/23 07:32 PM ET
This is totally wrong
-- Brother Griswold
Dec 13, 2023 at 05:25 PM ET
Brother Griswold
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12/13/23 05:25 PM ET
I don't remember that at all. They wanted DC and NYC. They certainly
-- reestuart
Dec 13, 2023 at 05:55 PM ET
reestuart
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12/13/23 05:55 PM ET
They wanted UMD / UNC / UVa / GT
-- Brother Griswold
Dec 13, 2023 at 08:13 PM ET
Brother Griswold
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12/13/23 08:13 PM ET
Your MD buddy is full of it.........
-- 2hhoop3
Dec 13, 2023 at 11:28 PM ET
2hhoop3
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12/13/23 11:28 PM ET
Hah - I said that they exploited UMDs financial status in my post
-- Brother Griswold
Dec 14, 2023 at 06:58 AM ET
Brother Griswold
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12/14/23 06:58 AM ET
So exactly how did it go down?
-- Brother Griswold
Dec 14, 2023 at 08:30 AM ET
Brother Griswold
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12/14/23 08:30 AM ET
We agree that there was never an official
-- Brother Griswold
Dec 14, 2023 at 09:31 AM ET
Brother Griswold
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12/14/23 09:31 AM ET
Your first paragraph nailed it
-- Brother Griswold
Dec 14, 2023 at 10:44 AM ET
Brother Griswold
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12/14/23 10:44 AM ET
Your statement that VT evidently isn’t a prize?**
-- Stech
Dec 13, 2023 at 06:03 PM ET
Stech
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12/13/23 06:03 PM ET
well, it's not. It's not like VT is chopped liver, but neither the SEC
-- reestuart
Dec 13, 2023 at 06:11 PM ET
reestuart
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12/13/23 06:11 PM ET
Easy, this is a VT board. Other boards however, are talking about
-- Big12 guy
Dec 13, 2023 at 06:30 PM ET
Big12 guy
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12/13/23 06:30 PM ET
The B12 would be the last option.
-- EDGEMAN
Dec 14, 2023 at 06:57 AM ET
EDGEMAN
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12/14/23 06:57 AM ET
I agree with this, but we don't make the call, the networks do. **
-- Big12 guy
Dec 14, 2023 at 09:11 AM ET
Big12 guy
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12/14/23 09:11 AM ET
NCAA 💵 is spread amongst all divisions, it pales in comparison to 🏈 💵,
-- Stech
Dec 13, 2023 at 02:32 PM ET
Stech
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12/13/23 02:32 PM ET
You asked when expansion stopped being about football
-- Pylons
Dec 13, 2023 at 02:41 PM ET
Pylons
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12/13/23 02:41 PM ET
It was a sarcastic question, sorry you missed that.**
-- Stech
Dec 13, 2023 at 04:58 PM ET
Stech
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12/13/23 04:58 PM ET
Lol. Yet you responded to others seriously.
-- Pylons
Dec 13, 2023 at 10:55 PM ET
Pylons
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12/13/23 10:55 PM ET
Nope it was sarcasm, they got it and you didn’t, but you do know how to
-- Stech
Dec 13, 2023 at 11:33 PM ET
Stech
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12/13/23 11:33 PM ET