They wanted UMD / UNC / UVa / GT
Delany knew UMD was in deep trouble financially and exploited that in order to get them to switch. He figured that once UMD committed to B1G he could scare / strongarm UVa / UNC who politely told him no. GT was desired at the time to make it an even number and get into Atlanta.
Remember that the financial disparity at the time between ACC and B1G wasn’t that large. UNC and UVa have never really “wanted” to leave ACC - as long as the $ divide wasn’t too large. For what it’s worth - VT I was told was very instrumental in helping to rally all of the troops and help the league stay together.
Rutgers was only added because none of the other ACC schools they wanted would leave and they had to get an even number.
This all comes from a very high level donor at UMD that was involved in the process.
Delany was very focused on the academic image side of the equation and coveted UNC and UVa. A lot has changed since then. Delany no longer commish and they now have the 4 Pac schools.
Thread Replies (40)
When did expansion stop being about football? I missed that if it happened.
-- Stech
Dec 13, 2023 at 01:46 PM ET
Stech
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12/13/23 01:46 PM ET
When the expanders get/got all the football teams they think they need**
-- VTCALS72
Dec 13, 2023 at 04:52 PM ET
VTCALS72
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12/13/23 04:52 PM ET
Show me the evidence of that please.**
-- Stech
Dec 13, 2023 at 05:00 PM ET
Stech
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12/13/23 05:00 PM ET
Oh come on, there is no "evidence" on this either way
-- VTCALS72
Dec 13, 2023 at 05:14 PM ET
VTCALS72
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12/13/23 05:14 PM ET
No evidence is the come on, where are you getting the basketball schools
-- Stech
Dec 13, 2023 at 05:38 PM ET
Stech
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12/13/23 05:38 PM ET
Ok, you asked why I am saying that. So, you asked for my opinion.
-- VTCALS72
Dec 13, 2023 at 06:45 PM ET
VTCALS72
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12/13/23 06:45 PM ET
It’s your opinion, I respect you for saying that. Thanks!**
-- Stech
Dec 13, 2023 at 07:28 PM ET
Stech
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12/13/23 07:28 PM ET
That is what you asked for :-)
-- VTCALS72
Dec 13, 2023 at 08:04 PM ET
VTCALS72
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12/13/23 08:04 PM ET
I don’t think th ACC GOR can’t be broken any time soon without the majority
-- Stech
Dec 13, 2023 at 11:14 PM ET
Stech
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12/13/23 11:14 PM ET
I agree with this **
-- HokiesACC2004
Dec 14, 2023 at 08:58 AM ET
HokiesACC2004
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12/14/23 08:58 AM ET
Evidently, VT isn't that big of prize for whatever reason. Partly due
-- reestuart
Dec 13, 2023 at 02:49 PM ET
reestuart
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12/13/23 02:49 PM ET
100% it is UNC, FSU and ND...
-- jesuisvtguy
Dec 13, 2023 at 07:20 PM ET
jesuisvtguy
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12/13/23 07:20 PM ET
Right now the money is in football ratings!! USC IMHO wanted UCLA , so B1G
-- Stech
Dec 14, 2023 at 09:11 AM ET
Stech
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12/14/23 09:11 AM ET
This reminds me of fivethirtyeight.com analysis of B1G expansion candidates
-- tarheelblue
Dec 13, 2023 at 07:32 PM ET
tarheelblue
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12/13/23 07:32 PM ET
This is totally wrong
-- Brother Griswold
Dec 13, 2023 at 05:25 PM ET
Brother Griswold
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12/13/23 05:25 PM ET
I don't remember that at all. They wanted DC and NYC. They certainly
-- reestuart
Dec 13, 2023 at 05:55 PM ET
reestuart
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12/13/23 05:55 PM ET
They wanted UMD / UNC / UVa / GT
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-- Brother Griswold
Dec 13, 2023 at 08:13 PM ET
Brother Griswold
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12/13/23 08:13 PM ET
Your MD buddy is full of it.........
-- 2hhoop3
Dec 13, 2023 at 11:28 PM ET
2hhoop3
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12/13/23 11:28 PM ET
Hah - I said that they exploited UMDs financial status in my post
-- Brother Griswold
Dec 14, 2023 at 06:58 AM ET
Brother Griswold
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12/14/23 06:58 AM ET
So exactly how did it go down?
-- Brother Griswold
Dec 14, 2023 at 08:30 AM ET
Brother Griswold
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12/14/23 08:30 AM ET
We agree that there was never an official
-- Brother Griswold
Dec 14, 2023 at 09:31 AM ET
Brother Griswold
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12/14/23 09:31 AM ET
Your first paragraph nailed it
-- Brother Griswold
Dec 14, 2023 at 10:44 AM ET
Brother Griswold
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12/14/23 10:44 AM ET
Your statement that VT evidently isn’t a prize?**
-- Stech
Dec 13, 2023 at 06:03 PM ET
Stech
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12/13/23 06:03 PM ET
well, it's not. It's not like VT is chopped liver, but neither the SEC
-- reestuart
Dec 13, 2023 at 06:11 PM ET
reestuart
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12/13/23 06:11 PM ET
Easy, this is a VT board. Other boards however, are talking about
-- Big12 guy
Dec 13, 2023 at 06:30 PM ET
Big12 guy
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12/13/23 06:30 PM ET
The B12 would be the last option.
-- EDGEMAN
Dec 14, 2023 at 06:57 AM ET
EDGEMAN
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12/14/23 06:57 AM ET
I agree with this, but we don't make the call, the networks do. **
-- Big12 guy
Dec 14, 2023 at 09:11 AM ET
Big12 guy
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12/14/23 09:11 AM ET
NCAA 💵 is spread amongst all divisions, it pales in comparison to 🏈 💵,
-- Stech
Dec 13, 2023 at 02:32 PM ET
Stech
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12/13/23 02:32 PM ET
You asked when expansion stopped being about football
-- Pylons
Dec 13, 2023 at 02:41 PM ET
Pylons
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12/13/23 02:41 PM ET
It was a sarcastic question, sorry you missed that.**
-- Stech
Dec 13, 2023 at 04:58 PM ET
Stech
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12/13/23 04:58 PM ET
Lol. Yet you responded to others seriously.
-- Pylons
Dec 13, 2023 at 10:55 PM ET
Pylons
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12/13/23 10:55 PM ET
Nope it was sarcasm, they got it and you didn’t, but you do know how to
-- Stech
Dec 13, 2023 at 11:33 PM ET
Stech
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12/13/23 11:33 PM ET