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We agree that there was never an official

Invitation or anything close to that to UVa / UNC. You are correct that the question doesn’t get officially asked unless you know the answer. Delany’s vision was to get the B1G into the Mid-Atlantic / Southeast. At the time the B1G was still subscribing to the “contiguous states” BS. My contact from UMD didn’t even know until 48 hours before me it was announced and at that point it was a done deal. Many folks there are still pissed about the way the whole thing went down. Where I think we disagree is overtures to UVa / UNC were made - I have heard from others that would know (at UVa) that they were. Delany was surprised at how quickly UNC / UVa said thanks but no thanks. At the time folks at both schools thought the projections that the B1G were making with regard to future revenue from B1G network and future TV deals were pie in the sky BS and that the ACC would be able to stay within close distance. Turns out that was wrong but I’m not sure anyone ever conceived that the PAC schools (and associated revenue bumps associated with taking two Crown Jewels) were even a consideration. Without the UT / OU to SEC and USC / UCLA to B1G dynamic the revenues at all of these leagues would be much more even. The ACC missed the boat when they had a chance to be proactive poaching other leagues crowns. I am convinced (this is my conjecture with no real knowledge) that the ACC could have had PSU not that long ago (during / just after Sandusky mess) if we’d been aggressive. If that had happened everything would be playing out much differently today. Not taking PSU in the early 1990s was the leagues biggest mistake.
Posted: 12/14/2023 at 09:31 AM ET
(In response to this post by 2hhoop3)

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When did expansion stop being about football? I missed that if it happened.
Stech 12/13/23 01:46 PM ET
When the expanders get/got all the football teams they think they need**
VTCALS72 12/13/23 04:52 PM ET
Show me the evidence of that please.**
Stech 12/13/23 05:00 PM ET
Oh come on, there is no "evidence" on this either way
VTCALS72 12/13/23 05:14 PM ET
No evidence is the come on, where are you getting the basketball schools
Stech 12/13/23 05:38 PM ET
Ok, you asked why I am saying that. So, you asked for my opinion.
VTCALS72 12/13/23 06:45 PM ET
It’s your opinion, I respect you for saying that. Thanks!**
Stech 12/13/23 07:28 PM ET
That is what you asked for :-)
VTCALS72 12/13/23 08:04 PM ET
I don’t think th ACC GOR can’t be broken any time soon without the majority
Stech 12/13/23 11:14 PM ET
I agree with this **
HokiesACC2004 12/14/23 08:58 AM ET
Evidently, VT isn't that big of prize for whatever reason. Partly due
reestuart 12/13/23 02:49 PM ET
100% it is UNC, FSU and ND...
jesuisvtguy 12/13/23 07:20 PM ET
Right now the money is in football ratings!! USC IMHO wanted UCLA , so B1G
Stech 12/14/23 09:11 AM ET
This reminds me of fivethirtyeight.com analysis of B1G expansion candidates
tarheelblue 12/13/23 07:32 PM ET
That seems fair, IMO.**
reestuart 12/14/23 11:10 AM ET
This is totally wrong
Brother Griswold 12/13/23 05:25 PM ET
I don't remember that at all. They wanted DC and NYC. They certainly
reestuart 12/13/23 05:55 PM ET
They wanted UMD / UNC / UVa / GT
Brother Griswold 12/13/23 08:13 PM ET
Your MD buddy is full of it.........
2hhoop3 12/13/23 11:28 PM ET
Hah - I said that they exploited UMDs financial status in my post
Brother Griswold 12/14/23 06:58 AM ET
No you're....
2hhoop3 12/14/23 07:59 AM ET
So exactly how did it go down?
Brother Griswold 12/14/23 08:30 AM ET
I have information.....
2hhoop3 12/14/23 09:12 AM ET
We agree that there was never an official
Brother Griswold 12/14/23 09:31 AM ET
We will just.....
2hhoop3 12/14/23 09:57 AM ET
Your first paragraph nailed it
Brother Griswold 12/14/23 10:44 AM ET
Were taking MD......
2hhoop3 12/14/23 11:50 AM ET
Who are you getting this from?**
Stech 12/13/23 04:59 PM ET
Getting what? **
reestuart 12/13/23 05:56 PM ET
Your statement that VT evidently isn’t a prize?**
Stech 12/13/23 06:03 PM ET
well, it's not. It's not like VT is chopped liver, but neither the SEC
reestuart 12/13/23 06:11 PM ET
Easy, this is a VT board. Other boards however, are talking about
Big12 guy 12/13/23 06:30 PM ET
The B12 would be the last option.
EDGEMAN 12/14/23 06:57 AM ET
I agree with this, but we don't make the call, the networks do. **
Big12 guy 12/14/23 09:11 AM ET
It didn't stop
Pylons 12/13/23 02:00 PM ET
NCAA 💵 is spread amongst all divisions, it pales in comparison to 🏈 💵,
Stech 12/13/23 02:32 PM ET
You asked when expansion stopped being about football
Pylons 12/13/23 02:41 PM ET
It was a sarcastic question, sorry you missed that.**
Stech 12/13/23 04:58 PM ET
Lol. Yet you responded to others seriously.
Pylons 12/13/23 10:55 PM ET
Nope it was sarcasm, they got it and you didn’t, but you do know how to
Stech 12/13/23 11:33 PM ET
edited: 😄🙄😄
Pylons 12/13/23 11:49 PM ET