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VTHokie2000
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Your jail analogy is flawed though because the schools have the power to

create the rules they want to operate under. The schools even decide how much power the NCAA HQ in Indianapolis has to enforce the rules. If you think about it, then eventually you will realize that the structure of the NCAA is no different than any other self-governing organization. If you look at any pro league in North America, then you will see that the owners have the real power and the league's commissioner acts on the behalf of the owners. You will never see a commissioner do something that goes against the wishes of the owners or at least the majority of the owners in some cases. If you can find an example, then I can pretty much guarantee that the commissioner is longer employed with the league. So a better way to look at the structure of the NCAA is the schools are the pro club owners (i.e. NFL owners, NBA owners, MLB owners, or NHL owners). The same is true when you realize the majority of "NCAA decisions" are really made one of the various committees. FWIW each division level has its own committees and there are a couple committees that cross division levels. If you look at the roster of any of the DI committees, then you will see that majority of the members on the committee are representatives of the various NCAA members (aka schools). This is a reason you will see posters, including myself, make statements on here like "the schools ARE the NCAA" because that is how the schools chose to structure the organization when it was created in the early 1900s. However, most people find it much easier to blame individuals than on groups especially if their favorite school is apart of the group, so people mistakenly think the NCAA President is the NCAA when that person is really only acting as the face of the organization. This concept is important to understand because it will answer your question about whether the "NCAA" profits or not. If you look any NCAA financial statements, I referring specifically to the reports made by the NCAA HQ in Indianapolis, then you will see the NCAA HQ primarily serves as a pass thru when it comes to the flow of money. About 60% of the revenue generated by the "NCAA" is distributed directly to the DI members. About 4-5% is distributed directly to the DII members and 3-4% is directly distributed to directly to the DIII members. So the NCAA HQ really only keeps approximately 31-33% of the revenue to cover admin costs and other operating expenses (i.e. cost to run all the post season tournaments). If you ever have the opportunity to see the NCAA HQ's proposed budget for a fiscal year, then you will discover it is a lot smaller than it could be given the size of the association.
Posted: 04/17/2024 at 07:33 PM ET
(In response to this post by fsghokie)

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Not sure if serious
harlote101 04/16/24 06:30 AM ET
You cannot fix this problem by throwing more money at it. Some version of
wwhokie1 04/16/24 03:08 PM ET
NIL contracts could include restrictions on movement. That will slow the
33laszlo99 04/16/24 06:04 PM ET
This is coming but more and more I am going.
VTCALS72 04/16/24 07:19 AM ET
Watch VT's college softball...
jesuisvtguy 04/16/24 05:57 PM ET
Question, why weren’t people outraged more over head coaches making 10Mil
Stech 04/16/24 08:19 AM ET
Ok, a stream of conciseness not fully thought thru answer, but
RTFC 04/17/24 02:53 PM ET
Easy
VPI 1924 04/16/24 05:26 PM ET
Apples and Oranges. Every coach doesn't become a free agent at the end of
wwhokie1 04/16/24 03:22 PM ET
Your entire premise is wrong, no one is outraged that players are paid
Vienna_Hokie 04/16/24 02:00 PM ET
You come out swinging for no reason, I didn’t even say I thought that way.
Stech 04/16/24 02:57 PM ET
I think I agree with both of you
fsghokie 04/16/24 03:29 PM ET
I do have a slight problem with you calling the NCAA "gutless." Given that
VTHokie2000 04/16/24 06:19 PM ET
Idk, enforce anything consistently in the past 30+ years?
fsghokie 04/16/24 07:29 PM ET
Your jail analogy is flawed though because the schools have the power to
VTHokie2000 04/17/24 07:33 PM ET
Not really the Presidents are the puppet master
VTCALS72 04/16/24 10:30 PM ET
Ok … I disagree **
fsghokie 04/16/24 10:53 PM ET
There's plenty of outrage to go around
Vippie1 04/16/24 01:40 PM ET
Another point to consider, this is a VT message board
HokieNoVA 04/16/24 12:41 PM ET
that was probably always true though
MrBayAreaHokie 04/16/24 12:49 PM ET
I’ve always thought it was ridiculous. Outraged? I don’t care enough **
CrystalCoveHokie 04/16/24 12:32 PM ET
Since I am only me and can only speak for me, there is no way any one
VTCALS72 04/16/24 12:18 PM ET
Not me. I am far more bothered by permissive transfer guidelines than NIL $
Maroon Baboon 04/16/24 12:15 PM ET
Until fairly recently, it was just one "free" transfer
Pylons 04/16/24 05:13 PM ET
If they haven't already said so, the courts will eventually say that
33laszlo99 04/16/24 05:55 PM ET
I wasn't aware of that. If so, the courts have their fair share in ruining
Maroon Baboon 04/16/24 05:19 PM ET
I don't think the fight is over,
Pylons 04/16/24 05:28 PM ET
With that rationale, athletes should be able to change teams at halftime.
Maroon Baboon 04/16/24 05:33 PM ET
Credit hours should be tied to transfer
Big12 guy 04/16/24 04:13 PM ET
That would be a good idea IF the athletes were in fact students
VTCALS72 04/16/24 10:33 PM ET
Be careful my Big 12 friend
VPI 1924 04/16/24 05:34 PM ET
It's a good hill to die on.
Big12 guy 04/16/24 07:49 PM ET
Not true in a lot of cases.
RJHokie 04/16/24 05:45 PM ET
I understand your point....
Old Line Hokie 04/16/24 11:43 AM ET
I think that mischaracterizes some things
Pylons 04/16/24 11:25 AM ET
If the players were employees with contracts making $50k/year then
HokieNoVA 04/16/24 10:47 AM ET
In every industry there are those who get upset when the help wants to get
hokeyhokie 04/16/24 10:45 AM ET
Easy answer,
cricket77 04/16/24 09:47 AM ET
Agree….But directly or indirectly we still pay toward this ridiculousness **
CrystalCoveHokie 04/16/24 12:34 PM ET
Wish I knew the answer to your question.
Hokester 04/16/24 09:34 AM ET
Depending on the State, most head coaches
Big12 guy 04/16/24 09:16 AM ET
PART**
harlote101 04/16/24 06:32 AM ET