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Your jail analogy is flawed though because the schools have the power to
create the rules they want to operate under. The schools even decide how much power the NCAA HQ in Indianapolis has to enforce the rules. If you think about it, then eventually you will realize that the structure of the NCAA is no different than any other self-governing organization. If you look at any pro league in North America, then you will see that the owners have the real power and the league's commissioner acts on the behalf of the owners. You will never see a commissioner do something that goes against the wishes of the owners or at least the majority of the owners in some cases. If you can find an example, then I can pretty much guarantee that the commissioner is longer employed with the league. So a better way to look at the structure of the NCAA is the schools are the pro club owners (i.e. NFL owners, NBA owners, MLB owners, or NHL owners).
The same is true when you realize the majority of "NCAA decisions" are really made one of the various committees. FWIW each division level has its own committees and there are a couple committees that cross division levels. If you look at the roster of any of the DI committees, then you will see that majority of the members on the committee are representatives of the various NCAA members (aka schools). This is a reason you will see posters, including myself, make statements on here like "the schools ARE the NCAA" because that is how the schools chose to structure the organization when it was created in the early 1900s. However, most people find it much easier to blame individuals than on groups especially if their favorite school is apart of the group, so people mistakenly think the NCAA President is the NCAA when that person is really only acting as the face of the organization. This concept is important to understand because it will answer your question about whether the "NCAA" profits or not. If you look any NCAA financial statements, I referring specifically to the reports made by the NCAA HQ in Indianapolis, then you will see the NCAA HQ primarily serves as a pass thru when it comes to the flow of money. About 60% of the revenue generated by the "NCAA" is distributed directly to the DI members. About 4-5% is distributed directly to the DII members and 3-4% is directly distributed to directly to the DIII members. So the NCAA HQ really only keeps approximately 31-33% of the revenue to cover admin costs and other operating expenses (i.e. cost to run all the post season tournaments). If you ever have the opportunity to see the NCAA HQ's proposed budget for a fiscal year, then you will discover it is a lot smaller than it could be given the size of the association.
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Thread Replies (41)
You cannot fix this problem by throwing more money at it. Some version of
-- wwhokie1
Apr 16, 2024 at 03:08 PM ET
wwhokie1
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04/16/24 03:08 PM ET
NIL contracts could include restrictions on movement. That will slow the
-- 33laszlo99
Apr 16, 2024 at 06:04 PM ET
33laszlo99
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04/16/24 06:04 PM ET
This is coming but more and more I am going.
-- VTCALS72
Apr 16, 2024 at 07:19 AM ET
VTCALS72
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04/16/24 07:19 AM ET
Watch VT's college softball...
-- jesuisvtguy
Apr 16, 2024 at 05:57 PM ET
jesuisvtguy
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04/16/24 05:57 PM ET
Question, why weren’t people outraged more over head coaches making 10Mil
-- Stech
Apr 16, 2024 at 08:19 AM ET
Stech
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04/16/24 08:19 AM ET
Ok, a stream of conciseness not fully thought thru answer, but
-- RTFC
Apr 17, 2024 at 02:53 PM ET
RTFC
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04/17/24 02:53 PM ET
Apples and Oranges. Every coach doesn't become a free agent at the end of
-- wwhokie1
Apr 16, 2024 at 03:22 PM ET
wwhokie1
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04/16/24 03:22 PM ET
Your entire premise is wrong, no one is outraged that players are paid
-- Vienna_Hokie
Apr 16, 2024 at 02:00 PM ET
Vienna_Hokie
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04/16/24 02:00 PM ET
You come out swinging for no reason, I didn’t even say I thought that way.
-- Stech
Apr 16, 2024 at 02:57 PM ET
Stech
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04/16/24 02:57 PM ET
I think I agree with both of you
-- fsghokie
Apr 16, 2024 at 03:29 PM ET
fsghokie
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04/16/24 03:29 PM ET
I do have a slight problem with you calling the NCAA "gutless." Given that
-- VTHokie2000
Apr 16, 2024 at 06:19 PM ET
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04/16/24 06:19 PM ET
Idk, enforce anything consistently in the past 30+ years?
-- fsghokie
Apr 16, 2024 at 07:29 PM ET
fsghokie
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04/16/24 07:29 PM ET
Your jail analogy is flawed though because the schools have the power to
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-- VTHokie2000
Apr 17, 2024 at 07:33 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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04/17/24 07:33 PM ET
Not really the Presidents are the puppet master
-- VTCALS72
Apr 16, 2024 at 10:30 PM ET
VTCALS72
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04/16/24 10:30 PM ET
There's plenty of outrage to go around
-- Vippie1
Apr 16, 2024 at 01:40 PM ET
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04/16/24 01:40 PM ET
Another point to consider, this is a VT message board
-- HokieNoVA
Apr 16, 2024 at 12:41 PM ET
HokieNoVA
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04/16/24 12:41 PM ET
that was probably always true though
-- MrBayAreaHokie
Apr 16, 2024 at 12:49 PM ET
MrBayAreaHokie
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04/16/24 12:49 PM ET
I’ve always thought it was ridiculous. Outraged? I don’t care enough **
-- CrystalCoveHokie
Apr 16, 2024 at 12:32 PM ET
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04/16/24 12:32 PM ET
Since I am only me and can only speak for me, there is no way any one
-- VTCALS72
Apr 16, 2024 at 12:18 PM ET
VTCALS72
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04/16/24 12:18 PM ET
Not me. I am far more bothered by permissive transfer guidelines than NIL $
-- Maroon Baboon
Apr 16, 2024 at 12:15 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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04/16/24 12:15 PM ET
Until fairly recently, it was just one "free" transfer
-- Pylons
Apr 16, 2024 at 05:13 PM ET
Pylons
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04/16/24 05:13 PM ET
If they haven't already said so, the courts will eventually say that
-- 33laszlo99
Apr 16, 2024 at 05:55 PM ET
33laszlo99
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04/16/24 05:55 PM ET
I wasn't aware of that. If so, the courts have their fair share in ruining
-- Maroon Baboon
Apr 16, 2024 at 05:19 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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04/16/24 05:19 PM ET
I don't think the fight is over,
-- Pylons
Apr 16, 2024 at 05:28 PM ET
Pylons
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04/16/24 05:28 PM ET
With that rationale, athletes should be able to change teams at halftime.
-- Maroon Baboon
Apr 16, 2024 at 05:33 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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04/16/24 05:33 PM ET
Credit hours should be tied to transfer
-- Big12 guy
Apr 16, 2024 at 04:13 PM ET
Big12 guy
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04/16/24 04:13 PM ET
That would be a good idea IF the athletes were in fact students
-- VTCALS72
Apr 16, 2024 at 10:33 PM ET
VTCALS72
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04/16/24 10:33 PM ET
It's a good hill to die on.
-- Big12 guy
Apr 16, 2024 at 07:49 PM ET
Big12 guy
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04/16/24 07:49 PM ET
I understand your point....
-- Old Line Hokie
Apr 16, 2024 at 11:43 AM ET
Old Line Hokie
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04/16/24 11:43 AM ET
I think that mischaracterizes some things
-- Pylons
Apr 16, 2024 at 11:25 AM ET
Pylons
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04/16/24 11:25 AM ET
If the players were employees with contracts making $50k/year then
-- HokieNoVA
Apr 16, 2024 at 10:47 AM ET
HokieNoVA
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04/16/24 10:47 AM ET
In every industry there are those who get upset when the help wants to get
-- hokeyhokie
Apr 16, 2024 at 10:45 AM ET
hokeyhokie
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04/16/24 10:45 AM ET
Agree….But directly or indirectly we still pay toward this ridiculousness **
-- CrystalCoveHokie
Apr 16, 2024 at 12:34 PM ET
CrystalCoveHokie
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04/16/24 12:34 PM ET
Wish I knew the answer to your question.
-- Hokester
Apr 16, 2024 at 09:34 AM ET
Hokester
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04/16/24 09:34 AM ET
Depending on the State, most head coaches
-- Big12 guy
Apr 16, 2024 at 09:16 AM ET
Big12 guy
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04/16/24 09:16 AM ET