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FWIW the bylaws have a provision that allows a team to play a 13th regular
season game and it isn't the conference championship game either. The only requirement is that the team must play a regular season game at Hawai'i.
17.11.6 Number of Contests. [FBS/FCS]
17.11.6.1 Maximum Limitations -- Institutional. [FBS/FCS] In bowl subdivision football, a member institution shall
limit its total regular-season playing schedule with outside competition during the permissible football playing season in any
one year to 12 contests (games or scrimmages), except as provided for member institutions located in Alaska and Hawaii,
under Bylaw 17.31.2, and except as provided for all members under Bylaw 17.11.6.2. In championship subdivision
football, a member institution shall limit its total regular-season playing schedule with outside competition during the
permissible football playing season in any one year to 11 contests (games or scrimmages), except as provided for member
institutions located in Alaska and Hawaii, under Bylaw 17.31.2, and except as provided for all members under Bylaw
17.11.6.2. Twelve football contests shall be permissible during those years in which there are 14 Saturdays from the first
permissible playing date through the last playing date in November (e.g., 2024, 2025). (Revised: 1/12/99 effective 8/1/02,
8/5/99 effective 8/1/02, 4/28/05 effective 8/1/06, 12/15/06)
17.31 Exceptions for Member Institutions Located in Alaska, Hawaii and Puerto
Rico.
17.31.2 Alaska/Hawaii, Additional Football Contest. Member institutions located in Alaska and Hawaii shall be
permitted to exceed, by one, the maximum number of football contests permitted under Bylaw 17.11.6.1 but otherwise shall
conform to the same maximum number of contests and dates of competition permitted other members of the Association.
Some teams have used this bylaw in the past to play an extra home game to help offset the travel costs. For example last season New Mexico State played 13 regular season games, participated in the C-USA Conference Championship Game, and a bowl game. DI-FCS schools are willing to play at Hawai'i because it means getting to play 12 regular season games in years where the other teams are limited to only 11 regular season games. I have always thought that Hawai'i should be the only DI-FBS Independent team because of its location. Plus, it would allow Hawai'i the opportunity to play every regular season game at home if so desired.
Thread Replies (38)
Regarding the 3-loss SEC team debate below
-- I85Hokie
Nov 18, 2024 at 08:44 AM ET
I85Hokie
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11/18/24 08:44 AM ET
This doesn't really make sense.
-- Truthahn
Nov 19, 2024 at 12:15 PM ET
Truthahn
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11/19/24 12:15 PM ET
At the very least it shows the difference between a playoff ran by a
-- VTHokie2000
Nov 19, 2024 at 06:21 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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11/19/24 06:21 PM ET
Which potential 3-loss SEC team/s do you not think are top 12 material?
-- 133193Hokie
Nov 18, 2024 at 03:45 PM ET
133193Hokie
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11/18/24 03:45 PM ET
LSU lost to the 12th place Big Ten team. They wouldn’t beat a soul.
-- reestuart
Nov 18, 2024 at 09:00 PM ET
reestuart
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11/18/24 09:00 PM ET
Listening to Game Day Saturday, all of them, maybe even 4 loss too. 💵💵💵**
-- Stech
Nov 18, 2024 at 06:55 PM ET
Stech
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11/18/24 06:55 PM ET
According to Game Day Saturday, you can't leave the 5-loss teams out of
-- VTHokie2000
Nov 18, 2024 at 08:58 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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11/18/24 08:58 PM ET
Clemson didn't even belong on the same field with the #10 ranked CFP team**
-- drb
Nov 20, 2024 at 07:03 AM ET
drb
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11/20/24 07:03 AM ET
Clemson my beat USC - but they are not a playoff "worthy" team in my
-- 133193Hokie
Nov 18, 2024 at 03:47 PM ET
133193Hokie
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11/18/24 03:47 PM ET
Junior Beamer want lose to Clemson **
-- VPI 1924
Nov 19, 2024 at 04:53 PM ET
VPI 1924
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11/19/24 04:53 PM ET
The purpose of a 12 team playoff is to ensure that teams capable of winning
-- daveinop
Nov 18, 2024 at 01:29 PM ET
daveinop
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11/18/24 01:29 PM ET
I don't think there are 12 teams capable.
-- wwhokie1
Nov 19, 2024 at 11:35 AM ET
wwhokie1
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11/19/24 11:35 AM ET
💵💵💵💵🤦 If you speak up you’re fired!! Unprofessional Wrestling model.
-- Stech
Nov 18, 2024 at 06:52 PM ET
Stech
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11/18/24 06:52 PM ET
I disagree. The purpose of the playoff is to make money
-- HokieAl
Nov 18, 2024 at 03:53 PM ET
HokieAl
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11/18/24 03:53 PM ET
I understand why they did it. But you'll never hear any justification for
-- daveinop
Nov 20, 2024 at 01:37 PM ET
daveinop
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11/20/24 01:37 PM ET
Yes, it was designed to generate more money for the P2 conferences.
-- EDGEMAN
Nov 18, 2024 at 04:18 PM ET
EDGEMAN
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11/18/24 04:18 PM ET
if that is truly the standard then one can argue every season
-- Vippie1
Nov 18, 2024 at 01:52 PM ET
Vippie1
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11/18/24 01:52 PM ET
I don't think anyone outside the top 3-6
-- daveinop
Nov 18, 2024 at 03:10 PM ET
daveinop
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11/18/24 03:10 PM ET
The problem with the SEC, as Saban said, with the Portal there’s no depth.
-- Stech
Nov 18, 2024 at 01:08 PM ET
Stech
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11/18/24 01:08 PM ET
Which makes one wonder, what are they going to do with all those
-- wwhokie1
Nov 19, 2024 at 11:45 AM ET
wwhokie1
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11/19/24 11:45 AM ET
The increase in 🏈 scholarships is befuddling to me, what is the benefit?
-- Stech
Nov 19, 2024 at 12:47 PM ET
Stech
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11/19/24 12:47 PM ET
Remember that SEC only plays 8 conf games (as does ACC). BIG and B12 play 9
-- HokieAl
Nov 18, 2024 at 12:03 PM ET
HokieAl
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11/18/24 12:03 PM ET
Addendum: there could actually be 6 SEC teams tied at 10-2
-- I85Hokie
Nov 18, 2024 at 10:25 AM ET
I85Hokie
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11/18/24 10:25 AM ET
I see some folks here are starting to understand the big picture.
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Nov 18, 2024 at 10:42 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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11/18/24 10:42 AM ET
Conf Champ game is potentially a knockout game, ND stays home & is rewarded
-- Stech
Nov 18, 2024 at 11:21 AM ET
Stech
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11/18/24 11:21 AM ET
You're 100% correct.
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Nov 18, 2024 at 11:33 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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11/18/24 11:33 AM ET
Notre Dame is the best negotiator better than SEC or Big 10 by far!! Good 4
-- Stech
Nov 18, 2024 at 07:28 PM ET
Stech
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11/18/24 07:28 PM ET
They have the power and use it **
-- VaTechHokiesACC
Nov 19, 2024 at 12:57 AM ET
VaTechHokiesACC
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11/19/24 12:57 AM ET
IMO, they should give up CGs across the board for a 13th game for everyone.
-- Maroon Baboon
Nov 18, 2024 at 11:12 AM ET
Maroon Baboon
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11/18/24 11:12 AM ET
We don't even need a 13th reg. season game. It's superfluous.
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Nov 18, 2024 at 11:44 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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11/18/24 11:44 AM ET
FWIW the bylaws have a provision that allows a team to play a 13th regular
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-- VTHokie2000
Nov 18, 2024 at 08:07 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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11/18/24 08:07 PM ET
I'd like to know the sticker price to send the entire VT staff, team, and-
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Nov 19, 2024 at 01:04 PM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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11/19/24 01:04 PM ET
Maybe so, but it would be a nice "reward" for the players and a promotional
-- VTHokie2000
Nov 19, 2024 at 06:16 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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11/19/24 06:16 PM ET
I see other 3-loss SEC teams getting at large bids before 1-loss ACC/B12...
-- EDGEMAN
Nov 18, 2024 at 09:39 AM ET
EDGEMAN
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11/18/24 09:39 AM ET
This year the "debate" may end up being which teams deserve an at-large
-- VTHokie2000
Nov 18, 2024 at 09:33 AM ET
VTHokie2000
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11/18/24 09:33 AM ET
That wouldn't surprise me at all.**
-- EDGEMAN
Nov 18, 2024 at 09:39 AM ET
EDGEMAN
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11/18/24 09:39 AM ET
The same can be said for a 3 loss ACC champ, as they would
-- Big12 guy
Nov 18, 2024 at 09:24 AM ET
Big12 guy
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11/18/24 09:24 AM ET