decreasingly plausible. If a school as good in big time athletics as Oklahoma State (always very good in football and basketball, and elite in non revs like baseball and wrestling) can't break through to the P2, this is a bad sign for in-state rivals sticking together. And of course, it's terrible for college sports and football in particular. This is true here in Virginia as well as Oregon, Washington, Kansas, Arizona and North Carolina. I think it's every man for himself now. I would be shocked if Wazzu and Oregon State make the big time. Some of these tandems have been in the same conference for a century. I do think it's possible that Cal and Stanford get in the B1G. Or in the case of Cal, make it difficult for UCLA to leave. The state of California might be worth it though. I think if the B1G brings just UCLA and USC, that that will be the lamest, pure money grab ever. ** Edited by Maroon Baboon at 7/17/2022, 1:08:32 PM ** Edited by Maroon Baboon at 7/17/2022, 5:23:07 PM