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jonnyhawk jonnyhawk OP
Apr 23, 2026 at 05:07 PM ET
Whit Babcock, like him or not, this man did the best he could for VT.
You can't say he did not try, and with what some would say, was working with one hand behind his back (lack of funding) I think he did a great job when you consider the resources. I think his struggle to speak publicly combined with a fanbase frustrated with limited resources caused his popularity to dip, but that is part of the job. I have always felt like Whit would find a way, and I truly think (whether he gets credit or not) the Franklin hire was his Swan Song. Pushing for more money and making sure of the timing of it, and his part of the discussions with Franklin sealed the deal, so at the very least, he gets partial credit for Franklin. Good Job Whit, thanks for your help, and appreciate you looking after things until you retire. Cheers and Go HOkies!!! ** Edited by jonnyhawk at 4/23/2026, 5:09:01 PM

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VPI63 VPI63
3mo
Why didn’t he go to the BOV 7 years earlier with that presentation?
I’ll tell you why… he was more interested in Olympic Sports and milked the football cash cow for all it was worth. Now he retires after the worse VT football record in 50+ years. This guy was the AD of the VT athletic department that ran the football program into the ground. Ditto for Sands … he was Whit’s boss. Good grief! 🤯
JRHokie JRHokie
3mo
Thank You...
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Hate2SeeItEnd Hokie
3mo
Whit gambled and lost.
Whit knew the tide was turning in college football and a major divide coming between the have and have nots. He gambled on Fuente. Swung for the fence with big money and taking the all or none risk. He lost. Fuente was a bust and we haven't recovered financially (even in 2026). Why do I commend him? He took a shot. If he wouldn't have done so and would have played it safe or plain vanilla like Weaver always did and still would have, we would still be outside of the giant divide in 2026. This is why I commend him..He had the balls to try and swing for the fence because we were down 3-0 and the bases were loaded and we had 2 outs and 3 strikes in the 9th inning anyway, so swing away. Unfortunately, he missed. But again, if it were Weaver, his playing it safe conservatism would have landed us slowly in the same position as today and we wouldn't have had a chance to be on the other side of the have nots. Whit at least gave us a chance. He gambled. But.....he did lose.
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40ozDistrict
3mo
Nope. Keep reading below.
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40ozDistrict
3mo
No, keeping Ballein around was a huge mistake.
JRHokie JRHokie
3mo
Ballein and Fuente..
Money on the Baseball Stadium.. among others.. and was not good staffing the Hokie Club.. IMHO
tallahasseehokie tallahasseehokie
3mo
Here is Andrea Adelson's investigative work on that subject
At the time of publishing, this article opened the eyes of a lot of those stuck in the past.
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40ozDistrict
3mo
Boom! Yet WB play Sgt Schultz on all that stuff.
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Brewing_Hokie
3mo
Yeah yeah yeah. Dude didn’t do the best he could.
Atlee Hokie Atlee Hokie
3mo
He probably did the best he could.
Unfortunately, the "best he could" was severely lacking in ability.
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Hate2SeeItEnd Hokie
3mo
Quincy Jones, circa 1981, "I guess my best wasn't good enough."
On a serious note. I thought he tried and did his best and not to beat a dead horse, but the gamble on Fuente (the new contract) was an absolute massive gamble that would reshape VT (if it worked out) as a likely chance to be on the side of the "haves" with the upcoming great divide in college football, which he did forsee, between a few "haves" and mostly the remaining "have nots". He lost that gamble. I give him props for gambling and taking that bet because we had to. He simply rolled the dice and lost.
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Brewing_Hokie
3mo
The issues have been well documented that Fu could have worked if Whit
Had not allowed JB to undermine Fu and to actually fund Fu and the program well. He gambled being a cheapo, not being a leader, and not wanting anyone else to help run things and he lost.
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Planner_Hokie
3mo
Then why didn’t anyone else
Hire Fuente if he was treated so unfairly?
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Brewing_Hokie
3mo
Because it’s also well reported Fu didn’t want to do it and wanted to focus
On family. Dude has generational wealth, why go through the grind?
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RJHokie
3mo
Because Fuente decided not to be a head coach again.
** Edited by RJHokie at 4/24/2026, 1:22:52 PM
jonnyhawk jonnyhawk OP
3mo
Lobbied HARD for more money in 2025 when it mattered most.
And Boom, we land Franklin and BobsYourUncle! No Whit.......No Franklin......No Banana. Simple
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Hate2SeeItEnd Hokie
3mo
I agree, but all the years prior to 2025 under Whit still count.
He wasn't the AD only for the year of 2025. He was the AD for many other years prior to 2025, and all of those make up his body of work. Overall, I give him an A for innovation and effort, a C for success, so final grade....B. Not great, not bad. Above average.
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Brewing_Hokie
3mo
Nope. The BOV TOLD Whit to get that presentation together.
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hokie24210
3mo
Yes they did….
He had nothing to do with pushing meeting
jonnyhawk jonnyhawk OP
3mo
NOPE
Whit Babcock was instrumental in advocating for a larger budget for Virginia Tech's athletics department. He emphasized the need for increased funding to compete at the top of the Atlantic Coast Conference (ACC), stating that the current budget was insufficient for the university's goals. Babcock's efforts led to a proposal for a significant increase in athletic department funding, which was ultimately approved by the Board of Visitors
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RJHokie
3mo
Babcock was only repeating the company line as ordered by the BOV.
The BOV initiated that presentation.
jonnyhawk jonnyhawk OP
3mo
It's great that you can type "NOPE" but you sir, are dead wrong....
Babcock provided the impetus: On August 18, 2025, Whit Babcock gave a 61-minute presentation to the BOV, warning that Virginia Tech was falling behind ACC peers due to a budget and resources "arms race". He named the price: He explicitly stated that if the board wanted the Hokies to perform at the top of the conference, they needed to invest closer to $200 million annually, rather than the baseline $122 million. The BOV took the lead on the plan: Following the presentation, Rector John Rocovich directed board members J. Pearson and Ryan McCarthy to work with campus leadership and Babcock to create the formal financial plan.
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Brewing_Hokie
3mo
Again, THE BOV TOLD WHIT TO GIVE THAT PRESENTATION
jonnyhawk jonnyhawk OP
3mo
Hope this helps. I broke it into sections, so you would not get confused.
The $229 million athletic budget increase at Virginia Tech was initiated by athletic director Whit Babcock, who presented a dire need for more resources to the Board of Visitors (BOV) in August 2025, rather than it being an original initiative of the Board itself. Key Details of the Budget Initiative: The Impetus (Babcock's Move): In August 2025, Babcock presented to the Board, detailing that VT’s athletic funding was 14th out of 18 in the ACC ($122 million annually) and that the department needed to be closer to $200 million annually to compete with top teams. He told the board, "We cannot keep taking pride in doing more with less". The BOV Response: While Babcock provided the impetus, the board took the request seriously and immediately charged members J. Pearson and Ryan McCarthy to lead a task force to build a financial plan. The Result: The Board overwhelmingly approved a $229.2 million, four-year budget increase on September 30, 2025, which, according to the university, was to ensure the school could remain relevant in a "new kind of arms race".
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Brewing_Hokie
3mo
Let me break it down for you Mr.12-0, it’s been well reported THE BOV TOLD
WHIT TO GIVE THE PRESENTATION AND GET IT READY. CC, Scoop, every good insider have said this.
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HokieNL
3mo
That nickname is about as good as GasLightDodgeboyGCHokie34
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3Manysons
3mo
You talking trash on GC?
Maybe I misunderstood but that is crazy if you are. Please tell me you are not. The only thing I associate with GC is credibility and really well put together arguments.
jonnyhawk jonnyhawk OP
3mo
NOPE
And we are going 12-0....this season! ** Edited by jonnyhawk at 4/23/2026, 7:08:51 PM
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Brewing_Hokie
3mo
Yup and you’re gonna guess right one year but not this time….
jonnyhawk jonnyhawk OP
3mo
Brew.......this is my year.
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Brewing_Hokie
3mo
If so, free beer for life. But if they do anything other than 12-0 you’re
Outta luck 😜
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HokieNL
3mo
Any free beer, for correctly pointing out that Mr. 12-0 is wrong?? 🍺
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Brewing_Hokie
3mo
Nope. Can’t run a business giving everyone free beer!
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HokieNL
3mo
Anyone screenshoting this??
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HokieNL
3mo
Screenshot saved!
** Edited by HokieNL at 4/23/2026, 7:45:02 PM
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HokieNL
3mo
"Mr. 12-0" 😂😂
jonnyhawk jonnyhawk OP
3mo
Yes, I am Mr 12-0, and we are going 12-0 this season. Buckle up Butter Cup
You like apples? How you like them apples. ** Edited by jonnyhawk at 4/23/2026, 7:12:04 PM
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HokieNL
3mo
"Eric Green! How about THEM apples!" - Mike Burnop
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HokieNL
3mo
Maybe he did. Perhaps he was just not so capable.
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Brewing_Hokie
3mo
Nah, when you get told countless times what’s wrong and deny it that’s a
You problem
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HokieNL
3mo
Maybe he needs his hearing checked out 😉
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Brewing_Hokie
3mo
He needs a lot checked…