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toddhager OP
Nov 10, 2025 at 07:59 PM ET
The clear objective for our next coach, is to hire someone that makes VT...
relevant again so we can make the next round of conference consolidation. There will be two conferences and any team that is chosen to join will have the resources to compete. Our next coach needs to be someone that puts us in a position to be picked. Never going anywhere if we remain outside of the SEC or BIG.

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VTCALS72
8mo
Unless something very unusual happens, that ship has already sailed for VT
The chosen have already pretty well been chose and anointed. Wins are not the only thing for relevance, I still believe as I have posted for years, that it is the media/betting platforms that have a marketing plan and we are not a part of it. The clear objective should be to get more stable, get better then get better. As far as the P2 goes, I would guess they have about 20 resumes of potential schools to include and VT is one of those. But they don't want 20 more in this environment.
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radhokie1
8mo
"get more stable, get better then get better." excellent way of stating it.
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VTCALS72
8mo
Yep, step by step and not leaps and bounds.
OlderHokie OlderHokie
8mo
Franklin is clearly the coach needed.
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marcbvtgm
8mo
Which is why Franklin would be a mistake VT would never recover from.
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ForgeHokie
8mo
Completely Disagree
Franklin is the best choice as of today….. brings recruits with him, national exposure, immediate relevance. Downfall is he is gone in 5 years. We need to return to national prominence now!
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marcbvtgm
8mo
A bunch of assumptions based on wishful thinking, not evidence.
Techsupport Techsupport
8mo
So you're "assuming" 12 wins at Holy Cross (Chesney) > 12 wins at PSU?
Who's your guy, and please explain what you're not going to be assuming about him.....he's better against the to 25 because he's never played any/very few?
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marcbvtgm
8mo
I assume 17-30 vs top 25 in a 15 yr career doesn't translate to 10 Ws at VT
I would take Chesney in a heartbeat over Franklin for about 10 different reasons. I would take almost very name that has been thrown about for the VT job over Franklin. He's just not a good coach against peers and VT has mostly peers on it's schedule.
CPVT3 CPVT3
8mo
Respectfully, the ACC is much easier than the B1G
Winning is easier Less top teams ** Edited by CPVT3 at 11/12/2025, 12:20:45 AM
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marcbvtgm
8mo
Respectfully, the ACC is harder for VT than the B1G for PSU.
CPVT3 CPVT3
8mo
I disagree
We literally made a living off winning the ACC lol What are you talking about? What's the highest ranked B1G team? What's the highest ranked ACC team?
Techsupport Techsupport
8mo
Big assumption.
Techsupport Techsupport
8mo
...and (17-30 top 25)-(4-21 top 10)= 13-9 vs #11-#25. Not too shabby.
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marcbvtgm
8mo
13-9 vs #11-25 isn't particularly good. Beamer was 44-28 w/ VT resources.
Techsupport Techsupport
8mo
You realize that's <1 game (0.44 games) separating them. Just sayin'
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Happy Dog
8mo
If he's gone in 5 because he did a great job, awesome!
HokieAl HokieAl
8mo
I would support JF if chosen, but I agree that he is not best choice for VT
VT has a very small window of opportunity here. And the current landscape requires having enough money to buy a great roster thru the portal. We need great coordinators to game plan for that talent with the expectation of immediate results. What we don’t need is to overpay for a HC that did well under the old system of recruiting and developing players over time. It’s NFL time. Get a great system and players that fit and who can produce right away. And be aggressive on offense to maximize points, which makes for good tv and viewership.
Techsupport Techsupport
8mo
Who's the guy with the track record doing what JF apparently cant do?
Let me help you...theres more than one. Here's the list...each with their own challenges. Nick Saban Kirby Smart Ryan Day Jim Harbaugh Btw..what we pay for coaches does not impact what we pay for players. Player cap will be fully funded before we negotiate staff salaries. "Get a great system and players that fit and who can produce right away". No problem, what coaches do you have in mind that have the potential to amass the most 4* athletes on the VT campus at any one time in history by their first game? JF could very well do that. He is literally the only coach available that has even a PRAYER of flipping the script on recruiting, be it high school, portal, or otherwise. It is almost guaranteed that any other coach is going to be bringing in the same mediocre(at best) talent Pry and Fuente did.
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marcbvtgm
8mo
Well, for starters, he's 17-30 vs top 25 teams. And why bail out PSU?
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crazylane
8mo
I agree
But the money Tech is going to pour into football will trickle into player salaries somehow. Franklin plus money would bring in the most talent. But coach X plus money will bring in more than we have been getting. Look at Uva. What did they have to sell the transfer class everybody loved? Losing tradition +empty aluminum bleachers+ money = a nice influx of talent. ** Edited by crazylane at 11/11/2025, 9:05:42 AM
UberHOKIE UberHOKIE
8mo
Apparently? He was fired not apparently fired
Techsupport Techsupport
8mo
Transpose JF PSU record to VT, and he's the toast of the town. Good grief.
You think we'd have ever fired a guy that averages close to 10 wins/season, but struggled in the biggest games? We know the answer to that...we built a statue of a guy that did that. and again...I ask...who's your guy with a better case to be made? ** Edited by Techsupport at 11/11/2025, 2:58:26 PM
CPVT3 CPVT3
8mo
Thank you, sanity.
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marcbvtgm
8mo
It's not that simple...and they don't build statues for 17-30 vs top 25.
Techsupport Techsupport
8mo
Who. Is. Your. Guy? Lol...
You cant name him, bevause you know your standard of JF applied to anyone else, eliminates them. ...lol. VT would never fire a coach with JF record. Not in a million years.
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marcbvtgm
8mo
I've answered that question already.
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1947Sunbowl
8mo
That's the objective
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toddhager OP
8mo
BTW, convinced that Franklin is the man we need to do it and do it quickly
UberHOKIE UberHOKIE
8mo
Why? He was fired for not doing a good job at a more 'relevent' program
What's he going to do withess money and less leverage? ** Edited by UberHOKIE at 11/11/2025, 12:16:48 AM
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HokiesACC2004
8mo
Losing mostly to Michigan and Ohio State
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marcbvtgm
8mo
And MSU before they imploded. And Oregon last yr. And UCLA & NW this yr!
** Edited by marcbvtgm at 11/12/2025, 10:50:16 AM
CPVT3 CPVT3
8mo
I think it was a dumb firing. He was in the playoffs last year.
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marcbvtgm
8mo
And yet again was 3rd in the B1G. Hit ceiling. Rinse and repeat.
** Edited by marcbvtgm at 11/12/2025, 10:59:36 AM
CPVT3 CPVT3
8mo
Not sure what you see as the Hokies floor right now. There's lava
That's how deep A little delusional about where we're at ANYTHING is an improvement I'm not like ultra pro Franklin and ultimately think there's more smoke than substance Fuente was the "hot hand" Didn't work Pry was the nice guy Didn't work Based on your posts, you want the hot hand I don't mind Chesney or Mullen at all either
Techsupport Techsupport
8mo
"Not doing a good job". How do you even reply to statement like this...lol?
Techsupport Techsupport
8mo
Who's better? Name him.
chumley chumley
8mo
…Shane
Techsupport Techsupport
8mo
Based on what?
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maroonhiker
8mo
Not doing a good job? He was one game away from the championship last year.
He was doing a "good" job by any reasonable measure, just not winning the very biggest games against the very best teams in his conference. I remember a guy named Beamer whose record was worse against the top teams. Did he not do a "good" job?
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marcbvtgm
8mo
PSU had an incredibly easy draw.
CPVT3 CPVT3
8mo
Still had to win games to get there
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marcbvtgm
8mo
They literally changed the rules because PSU got such an easy draw.
CPVT3 CPVT3
8mo
Wasn't it because the conference champions had bye weeks?
TekkNerd TekkNerd
8mo
His deal here would give him more money for a roster than OSU and Bama
I don't expect them to remain static, but we'll be able to afford plenty of talent.
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marcbvtgm
8mo
Huh? What planet are you living on?
TekkNerd TekkNerd
8mo
Per reports 30 million is more than they spend....
It's also more than Texas Tech is spending on their roster this year. I just looked OSU spent 20 million on their roster last year. ** Edited by TekkNerd at 11/11/2025, 9:18:22 AM
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marcbvtgm
8mo
Where are you getting that VT is going to spend $30M on its roster?
TekkNerd TekkNerd
8mo
Just realized I'm not on the subscriber board....
But I have read it lots of places online. If you want James Franklin he is flat out telling his suitors he needs 30 million in NIL for his roster.
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marcbvtgm
8mo
So your facts are unattributed web wishful thinking based on no real info?
** Edited by marcbvtgm at 11/11/2025, 12:08:16 PM
Techsupport Techsupport
8mo
No, it's been reported by Trey Biddy at 247.
"“I was told James Franklin wants to know he has at least $30 million to spend on a roster,” said Trey Biddy of HawgSports. “Two sources tell me that the interest between Arkansas and Franklin is very much legit. There has been contact there. Arkansas is basically going to make Franklin tell them ‘no.’”" Trey Biddy from HawgSports ** Edited by Techsupport at 11/11/2025, 3:08:08 PM
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marcbvtgm
8mo
You believe what some guy on 247 says without an ounce of critical thought?
Why isn't Franklin the favorite on the betting markets for the Arkansas job if Trey Biddy is so locked in? Interest between Ark & JF is legit because there has "been contact"? Wow, that's connecting some pretty faint dots there. If Arkansas was going to make JF tell them "no", wouldn't it be a done deal already - one way or the other? Could it be possible that Jimmy Sexton is planting rumors to give schools a case of FOMO? Nah never... Where is VT going to get $30M for the roster AND hire James Franklin and fund all the other football projects and non-football sports? How does that work? How much in additional NIL $$ will that require? $15M? Where does that come? And even if they do, how long will that be remotely close to the bar for a roster? ** Edited by marcbvtgm at 11/11/2025, 7:23:59 PM
Techsupport Techsupport
8mo
No, no, dont move the goal post...
You said it was based on "wishful thinking". Dont freak out when you'te wrong. It was based on a report by somebody in the business. It remains to be seen if its true, but its certainly plausible. The BOV just approved 45M immediately this year, that's not wishful thinking, so obviously, we're working in a new paradigm. Clearly there is going to be a massive new investment in football. The exact number remains to be seen.
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marcbvtgm
8mo
Take about moving the goalposts..."exact number remains to be seen".
** Edited by marcbvtgm at 11/12/2025, 11:02:09 AM
Techsupport Techsupport
8mo
Well duh? We'll see if its true, but it ain't based on "wishful thinking"..
It was reported in the sports media. For the love....take the L.
TekkNerd TekkNerd
8mo
Whatever man....I told you what I heard.
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marcbvtgm
8mo
No, you posted as though it was fact, not "what you heard".
TekkNerd TekkNerd
8mo
It is true.
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marcbvtgm
8mo
Folks like you are exactly why agents plant BS stories
** Edited by marcbvtgm at 11/12/2025, 10:38:38 AM
TekkNerd TekkNerd
8mo
I don't know if you're a subscriber here or on VTScoop.....
If you aren't your stance makes sense. If you are then I would only assume you missed the posts. Key people that are in the know and are usually spot on have posted updates, and based on their track record in the past I trust what they're saying. I didn't know I was on the free board when I made the post, and I'm not going to give you any more supporting info or evidence to support my original post, because I don't divulge pay content on the free side.
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KCHokie2
8mo
I liked "The RRKevent". Especially when the bear attacks Leonardo
Di Cpprio. ** Edited by KCHokie2 at 11/10/2025, 9:56:19 PM
UberHOKIE UberHOKIE
8mo
LMAO
I was using my Pennsylvania accent