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All4VT OP
Feb 02, 2024 at 08:37 AM ET
Big 12 gaming NET system
Terrency Oglesby does an interesting analysis to say that the Big 12 is gaming the NET system to get NCAA bids

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tallahasseehokie tallahasseehokie
Won’t matter soon
The P2 are scheming to split from the other 95 programs (except ND of course) in football. In no universe will that power move not hamstring them in all other sports. The remainder of D1 will have to drop the P2 and go it alone for March Madness. Cut them out and distribute their shares.
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HokiePail
Can't pull it up, but glad someone is saying it.
** Edited by HokiePail at 2/2/2024, 8:04:13 PM
kingofcassell kingofcassell
I knew something was fishy
Although I would say this is smart of the big 12. Beating teams ranked 300+ shouldn’t count for anything but a schedule filler and ticket sales. I also think early season games should potentially be weighted less than late season conference/non conference games. Basketball is a long season ** Edited by kingofcassell at 2/2/2024, 11:59:36 AM
hoosnowahokie hoosnowahokie
Yes, it means they have Dir Ops that are doing their jobs really well.
And what always killed me about Tech with their scheduling through Greenberg and Buzz's years with the RPI. They never created schedules that gave you the greatest potential to succeed in that ranking.
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VTCALS72
Of course league game schedules were never Vt's to "create"
Now could there be a really good scheduler in the B12 that builds the schedules, maybe even front loads the schedules to get teams talked about in December and January so even if their "net", RPI or whatever falls off, they are already in the conversation in February and March. But that would take the league scheduler and that is just another place the ACC conference office was/is not spectacular if their job was to get as many teams in the big dance as possible.
hoosnowahokie hoosnowahokie
It's not the league scheduler, it's individual schools OOC schedule
Like the part that each school puts together for itself. VT always did a terrible job with that
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soflahokie
Iowa St got beat by both us and TAMU, stayed in the top 20
Because they blow out the little sisters of the poor
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NokieHokie
So you're saying they're smart?
Chris Coleman Chris Coleman
So, a couple of points...
1) I don't call that gaming the system. I call it intelligent scheduling based on what is understood about the NET formula. 2) With an 18-game conference schedule, the Big 12 can play a couple of more crap teams than some other leagues like the ACC. That helps the efficiency ratings.
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TomA
But it is… the flip side is: why should (say) the ACC be penalized…
for playing a 20-game conference schedule. It points to a flaw in the NET system — it should be agnostic.
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Pride_and_Joy
How do you make an agnostic system?
Any system that is designed to discriminate between teams will be sensitive to such things.
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2hhoop3
Looks like......
Seth Greenberg was a few years too early. Now he would be known as an intelligent scheduler. Still his effectiveness would depend on the rest of the conference being intelligent schedulers as well. Point #2 is valid as well. ;-)
NC Hoke NC Hoke
Needs to be a limit on number of teams in a conference
receiving at large bids. They can tinker with numbers forever and not get it right. 9 or 10 bids to any one conference is lunacy. Setting a limit like 6 that makes sense would force a balance of teams from power conferences playing in the NCAA tournament and would even make the NIT a little more interesting. Or raise the number of teams invited, or do both.
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2hhoop3
That is a reasonable.....
suggestion IMO and one that given what transpires will likely be relevant to the expanded CFP in the future as well.