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1980VT 1980VT OP
Apr 27, 2023 at 12:36 PM ET
Replacing Basile / Mutts points and rebounds
Replacing the 30ppg / 13rpg from Basile / Mutts will be a concern. The other 4 spots with Beran in the lineup, will be expected to pick up the scoring. Rebounding will need to be a total team effort. Any time you lose your two main bigs, you have to be concerned.

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Squatro
Five guys on this team could average double figure points
But those five would constitute a pretty small lineup. There have to be other options. I think the key to this team will be Lynn Kidd. His offense will be important, but his defense will be vital. So that is six guys. We will also need solid play from Collins, Nickel, and to a lesser degree, Camden and Poteat. But I think the difference between a pretty good team and a real good team is going to be Kidd.
Pylons Pylons
Would love to see Poteat make significant strides
can't teach the physical presence that that dude has.
The_Phew The_Phew
Hopefully our wings aren't seemingly afraid to take 3s next season
When Cattoor is defending the opposing team's best player, he seems hesitant to pull the trigger on offense (tired?). Maddox had even worse shooting confidence issues, and Rice was a frosh that missed most of the season. I expect way better scoring from our wings next season to make up for any dropoff up front.
1980VT 1980VT OP
Teams played us from the outside first last year on Cattoor and Maddox
Early on Pedulla had the more open looks than the other two. After he started hitting some, the defense started coming out on him more. This opened him up to drives, but into ACC action he couldn't finish as easy on drives against the size. The key to our offense next season, in my opinion, will be how much production we get from our 4 & 5 spots. If they can be a credible threat from low to mid post, teams will have to at least play them honest. If they are nothing more than after thoughts of the offense, it could be long year, offensively.
NC Hoke NC Hoke
Having a weak shooter on the wing
factored into hedging - tightened defense being played on our other perimeter shooters. That could still be an issue this coming season (i.e. Collins), but maybe not with our starting rotation, as Rice picks up the shooting. Or, maybe Collins improves his shooting enough over off season to stop the hedging.
vtbball80 vtbball80
Collins was finding his range until he broke his nose...
and had to wear that mask. I think he'll be fine. His strengths are atheltisism and defense, but soon, teams will have to at least account for him on the perimeter.
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GCHokie34
This gets closer to the real answer...
The scoring load will be shifted. Guards and wings can score more, there could be a more even distribution among post scoring, the bench could (and should) be more involved. But they'll also defend better with a fully healthy roster, and you dont have to fully replace 1:1 scoring, you just need to score more than your opponents. If VT defends better and scores a little less, they should still do better.
YBYSAIAHokie YBYSAIAHokie
We probably got 5 PPG from the 3 last season.
VaTechHokiesACC VaTechHokiesACC
I like the recipe
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VT One
Half of those 30 points may come from Cattoor and Rice. Kidd is a point
machine looking for more shots. Better defense will result in 2-3 transition baskets a game- something we got very few of last year. Beran, Long and Nickel will definitely score consistently. I’m not too worried about points given the shot making ability of our players.
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vtox1
I am not that concerned about replacing the RB, I think Long and Beran will
Do = or better than a combined 13 rpg. Beran and Long will be better defensively than Basile/Mutts especially in terms of making team defense better overall. I do not expect Long and Beran to put up anywhere near 30 ppg. I will be surprised if they do 20+ ppg. However, I am not concerned as I think Rice, Kidd and Cattoor will easily make up the difference. Collins, Nickel and Camden all may help as well depending on how many minutes pt they get. I actually would like to see Pedulla's ppg drop some. He dribbled too much and took too many bad shots last year. I'd like to see both Rice and Cattoor averaging more ppg than Pedulla. We need Pedulla's apg to jump by 1+ in 2023-24. ** Edited by vtox1 at 4/27/2023, 10:05:21 PM
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HokieHoopzThe2nd
Hopefully we don’t replace Mutt’s turnovers
HeisenBurg13 HeisenBurg13
You do realize that Mutts averaged more assists than Shawn Pedulla and had
almost as good of an assist to turnover ratio (1.64 to 1.8) as Pedulla, right? Harping on Mutts turnovers is low hanging fruit and ignores everything else he brought to the table.
1980VT 1980VT OP
Assists are passes that lead directly to a score, Pedulla's role ...
Was to get the ball past half court and into the offense. It isn't a quick score concept unless numbers were there and he could drive and dish. So Pedulla's assist numbers were never going to be eye popping. Mutts role was as a facilitator once into the offense. More opportunities for assists along with turnovers.
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HokieHoopzThe2nd
Pedulla wasn’t all that great either. Agree to disagree.
Mutts turnovers were a problem. I don’t think that can be argued or spun in a positive manner.
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goodbadugly
While true, the turnovers only tell part of the story. We were 10x better
with Mutts on the floor. The offense flowed through him and he was better than 99% of PFs out there and getting the ball to the right place. He also played elite defense.
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vtox1
I'd expect Long/Beran to have fewer tpg than Mutts/Basile. Question is can
They come close to = those two in apg? Foulline shooting should be up Beran clocks in at 84%.
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GCHokie34
Last time VT lost their 2 main bigs...
Was when Ojiako got hurt and PJ Horne transferred giving way to Justyn Mutts and Keve Aluma Aluma was already in the program obviously, but Mutts was a late addition (June 15th before his first year at VT) to the roster from a CAA school. PJ Horne transferred out on May 25th, and 3 weeks later VT added Mutts...who we now know is an obvious upgrade.
Pylons Pylons
losing Horne and Ojiako vs. losing Basile and Mutts
seems hardly like a comparison worth making...the similarities pretty much end at "big." Horne and Ojiako didn't even combine for 40 mpg in 19-20. Maybe they were the best big options we had, but the hole left by them doesn't compare to the one by Mutts and Basile...which is not to say it can't be filled pretty well by the new (and returning) guys. I sure hope it can.
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goodbadugly
True. Our front court players are going to do more of
The scoring this year than last year. A healthy Rodney Rice is going to open things up for Catoor and hopefully make Pedulla more patient and selective. And Kidd’s offense around the rim is not what’s kept him off the court. He’s going to get buckets when he’s out there. Individually, Long and Beran are likely not as good as the guys they replace. But collectively, our D should be better and I think they are a better fit for what CMY is hoping to do offensively. Rebounding might be a concern but we’ve largely held our own with undersized bigs for a long time. ** Edited by goodbadugly at 4/27/2023, 1:26:28 PM
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5 spot. Can Beran average 10-12ppg? With 6-8ppg with Kidd & Poteat?
tallahasseehokie tallahasseehokie
If he can’t then why did Mike recruit him?
10 per game for a 30 minutes plus player should be expected especially since he will be green lit.
NC Hoke NC Hoke
Yes.
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goodbadugly
I predict Kidd will average ~10ppg off the bench. His offense is
pretty good.
1980VT 1980VT OP
10 would be great, but foul trouble will more than likely lower minutes
to get to that number.
NC Hoke NC Hoke
Also, defense.
Defensively, CMY may have a hard time taking either Beran or Long off the floor for very long. I look for both those players to average 30+ minutes. Beran and Long have the ability to push their point averages up some and the other shooters we have can make up the rest of Basile/Mutts scoring average. Then factoring in improved defense the result can be a net positive. I don’t think the addition of these two players will result in more playing time for Kidd.