Sure seemed like a lot of steps there.
24 Replies
B
Blueboy
1y
where he could see it and didn't call it. And not one of those idiots on set said a word. They must have been rooting for Maryland
(In response to this post by SonofRivahBob)
1y
First step was a gather, last 2 were legal for a layup/shooting gather
(In response to this post by SonofRivahBob)
1y
NBA concoction, followed by FIBA. By the rules, he walked.
Live, I also thought he walked on the catch on the in-bound. Looking at the replay, I still think he catches with his left foot on the floor and his right foot in the air. That makes his left foot his pivot foot. He then steps on his right and then turns to dribble. His left foot touches before his dribble hits the floor and he lifts his right before he releases his dribble.
On the shot, he clearly picks up his dribble with his right foot on the floor and his left in the air. That makes his right foot the pivot foot when the left foot touches the floor. That's what happens in a by-the-rules layup. However, in this case, his right foot retouches the floor before he releases his shot. He then makes a tough contested shot with a nice use of the glass, but it is still a travel by the current NCAA rulebook (Section 5, Articles 4 & 5).
Adding to the controversy in my view is that the rulebook for this season says that "[a]dditional focus/attention should be given to" a list of items. The fourth item on that list is "Traveling – Identify the pivot foot when a player gains control of the ball. When players are allowed to travel, they gain a distinct advantage over their defenders." I think this is a good example of how and advantage is gained--maybe twice, but certainly once, on the same play. I think Ayers just missed this one.
(In response to this post by GCHokie34)
1y
Don’t answer this as it will only make me upset. I just find it ludicrous that they don’t let someone take a step if they dive on the floor or fall on the floor and try to dribble. It’s infuriating.
(In response to this post by GCHokie34)
M
mghokie
1y
board, and I'm always in the sense of thinking that must be right. However, I looked up the "gather" step on google, and
it produced the following:
No, the "gather step" (also known as the zero-step) is not allowed in college basketball (NCAA) or high school basketball (NFHS), unlike in the NBA and FIBA.
Does this mean that google is not the source of all knowledge afterall?
(In response to this post by GCHokie34)
1y
Before starting your steps isn't allowed in NCAA.
It was a point of emphasis 2 years ago when the block/charge rule came under scrutiny. They said that the defender had to be stationary during the gather and not during the 2 steps...so this has been the case for a while now
(In response to this post by mghokie)
M
mghokie
1y
gathering, so I'm going to go back, look at them, and hope to understand it better.
(In response to this post by GCHokie34)
1y
I'm not sure there's a consensus on it among referee to referee much less us on the outside
I genuinely wish it were a black or white 2 step. But I get why freedom of movement can be exciting for fans and limit whistles
(In response to this post by mghokie)
2
2hhoop3
1y
the rule now allows 3 steps?
(In response to this post by GCHokie34)
B
Blueboy
1y
you take 4 or 5 if it takes that many to "gather". He caught the ball at the top of the key and dribbled before picking it up. Seems he "gathered" it when he caught it.
(In response to this post by GCHokie34)
2
2hhoop3
1y
another step without a dribble is that not 3 steps?
(In response to this post by GCHokie34)
1y
They're just mincing between what is the starting point of when those 2 steps can begin
It's been a topic of debate with the step back threes that have been popular in recent years where it looks like they're taking an extra step or two, but from a technical standpoint it's legal
(In response to this post by 2hhoop3)
Is this "gather" stuff new? That was clearly a walk in my day.
But I'm old.
(In response to this post by GCHokie34)
B
Blueboy
1y
(In response to this post by Femoyer Hokie)
1y
After the ball hit the floor his next foot came down and then he took two steps and went up for the shot.
(In response to this post by Blueboy)
I need to see the written out rule for traveling nowadays
Because they sure seem to let a LOT slide.
Not picking, but saw a social media video on Pedulla's pivot foot the other day against UNC. I think it moved a solid 8 ft around in a circle. I honestly think they need a 4th ref with specific instructions to watch the bottom half of players during the game. So much focus is on the hands and upper area, feet get forgotten.
(In response to this post by SonofRivahBob)
1y
The Kendrick Perkins pivot-o-rama from many years back is my favorite
(In response to this post by hoosnowahokie)
1y
(In response to this post by ancient alien 2018)
1y
4-5 seconds before you call "3". In the amount of time you are watching that one player, you will not believe what else is happening. Not a major point of emphasis anymore
(In response to this post by ancient alien 2018)