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emhokie OP
Feb 07, 2026 at 11:58 AM ET
Mineo has a post on fakebook about Seidel
It goes in to great detail of his match dominance Specifically, he is averaging 37 seconds less time on the mat than Messenbrink and that’s crazy impressive!!! He didn’t make P4P last ranking but I don’t see how he doesn’t make next ranking update Go Hokies and congrats AS!

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Rokie08
5mo
They wont put him in p4p
He's gotta win in March first.
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dallasvt
5mo
Flo has LaDarion Lockett at 14 in P4P, but I say forget about that for now.
Obviously, Seidel continuing to win is most important.
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Hikinghokie
5mo
Lockett has a win over Caliendo this season
What Seidel is doing is absolutely unreal, but I get waiting to rank him p4p. He's lost to all the other super freshmen at his weight in the past year. Let's see if his dominance over all these really good wrestlers can translate into wins against the elite wrestlers. It doesn't necessarily matter that he's better on top than Blaze and Davino in those matchups if he can't turn them. I can't wait to see him try though. And the amount of points he puts up makes him less prone to an upset on his way to those big matchups.
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donjfs3
5mo
I don't think he needs to turn them necessarily
He's gotten so much better in scrambling situations and on his feet in general over the past year or so I think he can compete with those guys in a one TD match. Also I don't think people will go underneath so the 1-0 victory is in play. Forrest would be the toughest with his output IMO - you can't really gameplan him you just have to be better than him for a full 7 mins.
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Hikinghokie
5mo
I'm definitely interested to see him against them in neutral
I think he had multiple avenues to a win. 1-0 if they take neutral, 2-0 or 2-1 with a riding point, blow the whole thing open with some back points, or even win from neutral. My point was more than him being more dominant over common opponents doesn't necessarily mean he's the best of the bunch.
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donjfs3
5mo
Agreed. He's proven he's dominant when he's supposed to be.
That doesn't always translate but it is a good sign
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emhokie OP
5mo
Agree, he looks great so far on his feet
Also agree dudes will be hesitant to go underneath him with the hopes of getting a one point escape to instead likely be turned at least once for four points. It’s a shame we may not get to see him scrap with Forrest before nationals. Their match in high school was a barn burner but both have leveled jumped since then and it’s large irrelevant at the college level now.
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dallasvt
5mo
I am not arguing for him to be ranked in the P4P. In fact, he should not be
yet in my opinion, but boy do I like to watch what he does on the mat. I just wanted to point out someone who has not done it in March is on the list.
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Hikinghokie
5mo
Vega is ranked too
And has a similar p4p quality win over Hardy. Agree with your points. Seidel would be ranked p4p if he had the wins to justify it. For him, he won't get that opportunity until March. ** Edited by Hikinghokie at 2/7/2026, 3:21:01 PM
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emhokie OP
5mo
Good point about Lockett. Sounds like there is at least some subjectivity
in the process.
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Rokie08
5mo
OKST bias
And he beat Caliendo (Iowa bias). Flo caters to the big fan bases. Only way an ACC guy gets ranked in the p4p is after march.
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emhokie OP
5mo
Trumble is ranked #19 as of today and he’s in the ACC
** Edited by emhokie at 2/7/2026, 1:23:32 PM
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emhokie OP
5mo
That’s interesting. I didn’t know the criteria. Seems odd but I’m
sure there’s s logical reason if that’s a requirement
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Rokie08
5mo
There is no criteria
Flo just caters to the big fan bases to keep them paying.