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Stech OP
Sep 03, 2025 at 07:27 AM ET
Per Ross Dellenger Vandy player leads lawsuit for 5 years eligibility no RS
necessary. You just just play 5 years. This is long overdue IMHO, Frank (Beamer) lobbied for this years ago. I’m surprised it has taken this long to go after it. Vandy went after the Junior College years not counting, and now this, they must have a forward thinking Attorney on staff or something. Bring back Ferrum Junior College and their 4 National Championships. They fed Virginia Tech, UVA and Clemson etc. for many years in the 60’s and 70’s. Hank Norton was the Bear Bryant of Junior College Football back then. However, I literally digress, here is the lawsuit, you get to play 5 in 5. If it goes through, expect to know less players with the transfer portal, but I have always thought this was the right thing. Kids like Tyrod losing eligibility because they had to burn their shirt year, I always thought was wrong, but maybe that’s just me. ** Edited by Stech at 9/3/2025, 7:28:37 AM

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Brother Griswold
11mo
Hank Norton - friggin legend. Hadn’t heard his name in a while
reestuart reestuart
11mo
I have thought for a long time it should be 5 to play 5. It simplifies
everything. None of this 5 for 4, but you can play 4 games BS.
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Stech OP
11mo
Me too.
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I85Hokie
11mo
Ultimately they may just get rid of eligibility requirements entirely
You could see a star player making more money than he would in the pros by playing his entire career for the University of Texas.
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Stech OP
11mo
Just let the NFL take it over then, at least they have competitive balance
rules. Just mirror it after baseball. College 🏈 could be AAA, AA and A level teams. With the transfer portal, kids are getting brought up so to speak all the time. The only question is, do they have to take so many hours to be eligible. The smartest ones will get their Masters and PhD’s. We have already seen our basketball players getting their Masters degrees.
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Baltimore_Hokie
11mo
Next will be getting rid of the entire concept of eligibility, period.
You can go to college as many years as you want, why shouldn't you be able to play on the football team as long as you're enrolled?? Then they will come for enrollment, and the entire idea of being a student. Why even require enrollment, and working towards a degree?? Eligibility and enrollment requirements do nothing but limit these guys' ability to make the maximum amount of money in return for their valuable professional services - they're illegal restraints on trade!!!! That's un-American!!!!! There should be no doubt in anyone's mind - that's where all this is ultimately going. Pandora's Box has already been opened.
HokieAl HokieAl
11mo
The problem is that eligibility/enrollment is key to keep this non-profit
There is no way that the schools and conferences can maintain the non-profit status if they remove the educational component. Well, I suppose if they donate enough money to the right politicians then anything can happen. But on paper, I think this is a key topic that they are trying to avoid for as long as possible.
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Stech OP
11mo
That’s a really important point Al, and I am glad that is there, far more
players benefit from a degree than playing in the NFL. I believe the average NFL player is broke after 5 years.
MP4VT2004 MP4VT2004
11mo
Yep, I've been saying the same thing myself.
I look forward to the days when 30-year-old dudes play "college" football. 🙄
PadrosWindup PadrosWindup
11mo
This man spent 7 years in college, and became a US Senator
And married Mandy Pepperidge. ** Edited by PadrosWindup at 9/3/2025, 11:52:47 AM ** Edited by PadrosWindup at 9/3/2025, 11:54:12 AM
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Stech OP
11mo
🤣
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Stech OP
11mo
Not going after it on this 1, but the lawsuits are coming faster than ever,
so I agree, someone is going to sue for that too.
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Big12 guy
11mo
And why wouldn't they? It's why I think
there will be legislation and anti trust in out future. The education component is what will be the catalyst for the politicians to get something done.
VTHokie2000 VTHokie2000
11mo
I'm not sure that will be the catalyst for the politicians to get something
done. At least the political wind seems to be blowing in the direction to suggest enough politicians may believe the federal government should not be involved in education and/or the responsibility should be transferred to the states. If Congress decides to take a laissez faire approach to this topic, then how do see things playing out?
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Big12 guy
11mo
I see a separation then. At some point, the big dollar schools will
have their pro college football, and the rest will keep amateur sports. Where that line will be is anyone's guess. Who will be "included" and who will drop out is again, anyone's guess. Personally, I hope they separate football only. It never should have been included with title 9, which BTW, is another reason we may see legislation.
VTHokie2000 VTHokie2000
11mo
Whether football should have been excluded from Title IX is up to the
politicians to debate over. Personally, I don't think it should have been excluded because the schools know the "price" if it wants to sponsor the sport. Plus, an argument could be made that a football team truly doesn't "need" all those players on the roster. Instead, the school made a conscious "choice" that it "wanted" to have a large roster size for football. Also, the schools have been given plenty of opportunities to expand the roster size of existing women's sports so those sports total roster size equals the size they "want" for football and for various reasons they decided to not pursue that course of action. The schools made their beds and now they can lay in them. Given the way things are going now, it would not shock me if some day Congress repealed Title IX or the education laws that include Title IX. I could even see SCOTUS rule that Title IX or the application of it to sports at all levels is now unconstitutional.
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mancunian
11mo
Well, then you're going to need a CBA
and some kind of governing structure.
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Baltimore_Hokie
11mo
Your lips to God's ears, brother.
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mancunian
11mo
All I know is college ball is
one pubic hair away (to paraphrase Junior Soprano) from being pro ball and no pro sports league on the planet runs this way.
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Stech OP
11mo
Yep, there are more competitive balance rules in Pro Sports, like the Draft
The Draft not only makes it so the last place teams pick first, but also you can’t just get the 10 best players, there is a built in rotation as to when you pick.
VTHokie2000 VTHokie2000
11mo
I don't believe the last place team always picks first in MLB and the NBA.
At least I believe both leagues have rules in place to prevent teams from pulling a "Rachel Phelps" (Major League reference) during the regular season to ensure the team gets to pick #1 in next year's draft. Both the Wizards and Nats have been screwed out of the #1 draft pick in recent years because of their respective league rules. I'm not sure about the NHL, but I suspect the league has some sort of rule in place to discourage teams from tanking during the regular season even if it doesn't impact the draft position.
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Stech OP
11mo
Agree, that's why I used "teams" instead of team in my post.
HokieAl HokieAl
11mo
Completely reasonable and gives coaches flexibility
The young guys can get some playing experience if they want it without worrying about a redshirt year. And coaches could play the young guys as much as they wanted. If they really wanted to go crazy then a player could play a maximum number of college games in their career with no limit on the number of years. Maybe 60 games (which is equivalent to 12 games a year over 5 years).
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1947Sunbowl
11mo
interesting coming out of Vandy
There qb sued over junior college eligibility and now another Vandy sues for this action. Seems like a very activist players group...
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Stech OP
11mo
I think Vandy is fighting to stay in P2 or what could be the P1, so they
are pushing the envelope every way possible to change the rules so they can better compete. Honestly, it looks like it is working so far, good for them
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1947Sunbowl
11mo
Agree love their tenecity