Maybe many others will follow. Especially the majority of ACC and Big 12 schools. It would be a bold statement.

football or basketball, let alone both, would be a monumentally stupid decision for a variety of reasons. Without some hints it is often difficult to discern sarcasm on a message board. If you were being sarcastic, my apologies for missing it.

Community notes on the post also say it is BS.

Looking at the following for starters: Iowa State K-State Houston West Virginia If anything, they'll likely need considerable subsidies to barely keep afloat. That new $20M/year price tag is about to hit like a freight train across the CFB landscape.

pretty rare when schools have big money donors for athletics like SMU or the recent KU announcement. While it might be easier for the P2 to find that money, there are some in those conferences that will struggle as well.

college football would be a big fat L for the sport. Institutional failure. ** Edited by Maroon Baboon at 8/20/2025, 1:12:36 PM

the stadium, the location, and at one time, the fan base. it just goes to show that there is a separation of athletics, academics, and the political? will to be #1 in football. There is no such separation in Alabama, but if you put the educational institutions side by side, there isn't any comparison in all of the aforementioned areas - they are oil and water. It's too bad as a football fan, because that stadium is on my bucket list, but I'm not sure the pageantry, traditions, and fan experience will live up to my expectations.

Instead of breathlessly reposting garbage.

rugby program in 2010-11 even though it has been around since 1892 and it is the most successful program in history (33 national championships). I suspect a lot of schools will be having similar discussions because of the House settlement. If a FBS school isn't willing to switch to DI-FCS for football, a DI-FCS isn't willing to drop down to DII or DIII, or a NCAA school isn't willing to switch to NAIA for whatever reason, then the easiest thing would be to discontinue the sport. Cal's situation may be unique because the stadium is built on a fault line, so it has an added cost that most schools don't have to consider when deciding whether to continue sponsoring the sport or not. If Cal does decide to discontinue the sport, then it will be interesting to see how the ACC reacts to the decision. It may even be interesting to see ESPN's reaction because the "value" of the remaining contract may have assumed the ACC property shifts to the SEC and no one considered the possibility that a program could simply discontinue. ** Edited by VTHokie2000 at 8/20/2025, 12:00:39 PM

Universities should be universities, not semi-pro football clubs. Cal is a top 25 university. It doesn’t need a football program to protect what is important to the school and the state.

for Cal, any more than Stanford, the Ivy's, or any other university. I'm from the school of thought that Cal could be top 25 in football if they ever decided to do it. They have everything they need to be a top football school except the will to do so.

College football isn’t a big draw in CA. This is particularly true in NoCal. What little interest there is filled by USC and UCLA. Cal is swimming upstream without a paddle.

I think Cal will just except losing. Or being mediocre. I do think some will give it up

I see more Big East style leagues springing up as the P2 money squeezes out most of the other schools.

facility upgrades in the past years and fortunately have donors with deep pockets. So I'm thinking we will wait it out to see what happens to the ACC and make that decision then. I was talking mostly of P5 schools and P4 schools with little money or support. They will have to make that decision sooner rather than later.

Their private sources can just write a check. (sorta like Duke)...ND. They are buildlng the foundation now, and has you can see their budget is already substantially larger than VT, their football is pulling them down, (with attendance and support), if they get going they can easily jump to 200 mililion easy. Also many of their graduates are leading business and finance experts, and they know how to run a business. (VT has a board member who cited that she felt if we can raise ticket prices as the way to solve the gap ) agh..... My take is VT operate like business instead of back room operation, and be entrepreneurial and more risk taking they could make this happen. We know they can do it, with the Innovation Center in NOVA (500 milliion dollar dvelopment, the Medical school in Roanoke). If they just spend the same energy for athletics we can do fine. The problem at VT is more self inflicted.

I'm curious to know if you think UVA will table any future reno. plans to the stadium until it has more clarity on the future of the ACC and/or UVA's future athletic plans. Instead of taking a more proactive approach by taking on capital improvement projects to the stadium that could help UVA be more appealing to any sales pitch to a P2 conference. I know there has been discussion on here regarding UVA's relationship with UNC and its potential to secure UVA a place at the P2 table. At the same time, I do wonder if that will be enough or will UVA have to do something to show it is 150% committed to competing at the P2 level in all sports it sponsors.

don't have to eat Aramark food. Seriously, I don't know of any plans for Scott, but by putting permanent seats on the Hill could add 5k to 7k to capacity with minimal cost. Basketball, baseball, softball, and all other revenue sport facilities are P2 level. UNC and UVA have a long tradition, but I don't see any package deal. I do know that when Maryland bolted the ACC, the BIG wanted UNC and UVA to join them. But the criteria for expansion has changed and until the new criteria is public knowledge, nobody really knows what the P2 are looking for in expansion candidates and that knowledge won't be known until after the fact.

a package deal. Assuming the P2s want a member from both states for whatever reason. Honestly, I didn't think UVA had any plans for Scott Stadium in the works or even in the preliminary phase because right now there really isn't any need for it. However, I do know the expansion process typically starts by having informal conversations between a school and either a conference or other schools from the conference about the possibility of joining said conference in the future. I was thinking those conversations would be where any seed (i.e. stands on the hill, adding more luxury suites, etc.) is planted in UVA's head. Hence why I was curious if you thought UVA might try to be proactive before any formal announcement is made vs. waiting to join a P2 conference before undertaking any of those capital projects. Also, I thought UVA's other facilities were at P2 standards. Since football is driving the bus right now (perceptually speaking), I assumed it could end up being the deciding factor on whether a school receives a P2 invitation or not. Then again, the Big Ten and SEC may have different criteria that would be their "deciding factor" in regards to whether formally invite a school or not to join their conference.

Likewise, UVA could decide that Scott Stadium is good enough as it is now for the current demand among the fan base. Also, it is possible that KU was told something during the vetting process that triggered the decision to build a new stadium.