If the Big 10 stays firm on auto-bids...
Would this be any better:
B10: 4
SEC: 4
ACC/B12: 5 (ACC and B12 champions get in - then the other 3 spots are based on rankings and split between the conferences) - Thus, one season, you could get 4 ACC teams in, or 4 Big 12 teams in if the other conference is down. However, that means at least one of the two conferences get at least 3.
Non-P4: 1
At large: 2 (includes ND)
A small change could be the B10-SEC could have a similar agreement and each are guaranteed 3 each, but combined, they would get 8 - thus, 4 and 4 is an option, but the SEC could get 5 and B10 get 3 (or vice versa) if one conference is better that year based on team rankings. That means one of them could get 7 if they get 5 and get both at-larges if ND is down.
** Edited by The_VT_Rock at 7/24/2025, 9:45:57 AM
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If you go back and look at the normal years of 2015 to 2019, and look at
2022 to current, the 4th big 10 team seldom belongs in the national title discussion, the 4th SEC team generally seems to have an argument however.
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1y
If the conference is supposedly good enough to be called FBS, then their champion should get an automatic bid in a 16-team playoff. The remaining bids should go to the remaining highest ranked teams. If that means a 50th place team gets in the playoffs and a 10th ranked team doesn't. I have no problem with that. If you're ranked 10th, you have no room to complain about not winning a national championship.
** Edited by wwhokie1 at 7/24/2025, 3:16:30 PM
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1y
the ultimate goal is to secure the most money for your conference each year because it means more money in a school's pocket?
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1y
Worthless.
If both teams in a conf champ game are guaranteed to be in the playoff then there is literally no incentive to try hard or risk player injuries. And with nothing on the line, there is no reason for fans to care or to watch.
But the auto bid model has one key benefit that you won’t get from 5+11 model. With auto bids, it gives teams the room to schedule harder OOC games (which are better for tv and for fans). Using VT as an example, I would happily replace Wofford and Liberty with Wisconsin and LSU. That would make a VT football season so much more interesting.
That’s why I remain focused on a hybrid approach that brings the benefits of both proposals. Certainly from more auto bids but also flexibility for a conference to load up on at large teams if they have a great year.
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1y
currently exist in FBS football, hasn't the Big Ten and SEC made their CCG worthless now? If so, then what is the motivation for the participating teams and their fans to care about the game?
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1y
The conf champ games bring a ton of viewers for the BIG and SEC. And that means more money for them.
But that’s really the only thing left now, other than bragging rights. All four P2 teams that play in conf champ games are making the expanded playoff each year. And they changed the seeding approach so now the conf champ games mean even less.
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1y
conference may decide to get a sponsor to provide the "prize money" to be divided up among the winning team in the CCG. If the winning team gets to divide up $5M among the players and the winning school gets $5M, then that could provide enough motivation to make the game meaningful again.
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