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HokieZig OP
Aug 10, 2023 at 08:44 AM ET
How many votes are needed for expansion?
Currently there are 10 votes for yes and 5 for no but how many are needed to pass expansion?

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HokieJamie
12
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hokie77th
Who voted no
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Millpoint
Jason Scheer from Arizona 247 says
FSU, Clemson, UNC, NC State and UVa. So the conspiracy theorist in me thinks that these four schools already have a landing spot. My best guess would be the first four to SEC (Carolina needs State to make move?) and UVa going with Stanford to B1G??? Who the hell knows. ** Edited by Millpoint at 8/10/2023, 10:12:50 AM ** Edited by Millpoint at 8/10/2023, 10:13:12 AM
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corvt2000
That’s not what I just saw. According to McMurphy, UNC, Duke and UNC
Are pressuring VT and NC State to vote yes.
hokiesrule98 hokiesrule98
Other boards reporting a different 5 teams. We'll never know.
and very doubtful Arizona guy has a handle on this
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Millpoint
He's pretty connected
I have a hard time believing that Miami and possibly VT are not part of the NO vote. ** Edited by Millpoint at 8/10/2023, 10:18:15 AM
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Stech
Not on this.
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Hokie83
he is wrong more that correct
astrohokiebob astrohokiebob
Thank you for the post!
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Millpoint
Nailed the Big 12 expansion pretty well last week
Can you list examples of when he's been wrong? He seems like a decent reporter who checks multiple sources. ** Edited by Millpoint at 8/10/2023, 10:54:21 AM
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Stech
That doesn’t give him the inside knowledge on ACC schools, you get that
right?
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Millpoint
So what’s going on then?
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Stech
Nothing, without the magnificent 7+1, don’t believe any speculation that
doesn’t include those 8. Some don’t believe anything unless it has 12, but anything less than 8 would likely be financial suicide for the athletic departments IMHO. So your guy may have heard some of the pieces, but not the whole story. I am sure his connections are much better with conferences in that part of the country.
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Millpoint
Personally I think it’s the stupidest thing ever
ACC giving ND a vote for football related issues was just plain dumb. Good luck in SEC or Sun Belt. Lol
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Stech
It's shocking they get a vote for football, but I am serious, SEC or SB are
my one and two if the ACC implodes. I think the SB is going to surprise some people. I've always said, if you want to find tough football players, follow schools that are in the Appalachian Mountains. Just like Virginia Tech and West Virginia University. The SB has some great matchups coming that should be barn burners. If we can't get into the SEC, sign me up! PS The B12 might be able to get something close to that, if the ACC implodes, but will they send the non-revs coast to coast during the regular season? I simply hate that and I would rather VT be in the SEC or SB where they are closer and in the same time zone.
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Millpoint
Doubt this happens but
If one day the ACC implodes (unlikely) and SEC or Big Ten doesn’t work out I’m positive WVU will push extremely hard for VT in the Big 12. I know it would be less than ideal but if say three other eastern teams are added it could be more palpable with less trips west. I get what you’re saying about the Fun Belt but unfortunately it won’t pay the bills. ** Edited by Millpoint at 8/11/2023, 1:08:41 PM
BROman Hokie BROman Hokie
The 4 corners schools going to the B12 has been rumored for over a year…
if the P12 media deal wasn’t good, so that was not exactly breaking news.
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Millpoint
Scheer did an excellent job calling out Pac 12 bs throughout the process
His reporting was solid. If you guys can present some bad reporting by him please show it. He's not Swaim or MVHer3.
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132863Hokie
I would not dispute Hokie83's inside sources at VT....
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hokieZ71
The Mag7 might not want to appear as a voting bloc. For liability or PR
HokieAl HokieAl
Now that we know the initial vote, expansion won’t happen
We know for a fact that FSU and Clemson will keep voting NO. And NCSU will probably stay NO. So there is no room for anyone else to have concerns. I think it is too much to overcome.
Victor Tango Victor Tango
If some of the "yes" voters squeezed some more $
out of ESPN overnight, it could happen for the right price. Likely won't though. I saw one "insider" post that No's were FSU, Clemson, NCSU, and VT. UNC, UVa, ND were putting on the press to VT & NCSU last night.
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HokieNoVA
I wonder why UVA and UNC are on-board.
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WarHog38
They Are ACC Homers
They are the Utah & Arizona State of the ACC. Bubba Cunningham showed his ACC allegiance when he publicly went after FSU. ** Edited by WarHog38 at 8/10/2023, 1:01:40 PM
HokieAl HokieAl
Either academics or increased carrier fees from new states
Those are my only guesses because no other reasons make any sense. My prediction, ACC says no Cal tries to go to B12 Stanford goes independent for now WSU and OSU go Mountain West
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Truthahn
Merge with the MWC is probably the best thing now.
It seems like joining the Mountain West is the best option. Get them to kick out Hawaii and bring in SMU. Call it the PAC. Maybe that. I'd love to go to that first Cal at Wyoming game. The battle for the MAGA cup! LOL.
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Millpoint
I don't think the Big 12 wants Cal
Very bad fit for multiple reasons even at a reduced payout for the Bears. Best option for them is to add at least two American schools (SMU, Tulane?) asap to get to six for new Pac 12 then add 4-6 other schools (Mountain West?) the next year.
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Big12 guy
Frankly, it's Cal that doesn't want the B12.
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Millpoint
Then it's a win-win
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LansdaleHokie
12 of 15 (ND gets a vote)