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WBGV OP
Nov 02, 2022 at 06:07 PM ET
Gonzaga reportedly in talks with Big 12 about joining
“ESPN’s Pete Thamel reported Wednesday that Gonzaga athletic director Chris Standiford met with Big 12 commissioner Brett Yormark last week about the possibility of the Zags joining the Power Five conference. Having the Zags join the Big 12 would create a shift in the balance of the college basketball landscape — Gonzaga has established itself as a national powerhouse while playing in the West Coast Conference.”

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33laszlo99
Spokane (Gonzaga) is 75 miles from Pullman (WSU).
Travel partners?
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hokieZ71
ACC needs to add WVU and Cincinnati
Cincinnati v Louisville, Duke, ND, Syracuse raises the profile in hoops... WVU vs most of the ACC raises the profile in football..
Maroon Baboon Maroon Baboon
On a scale of 1-10. I'm a 5 on adding WVU and UC.
Wouldn't hate it. Just can't get that excited about it.
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hoodat
Would love to see the ACC add Cincy, WVU and to
jump into that Texas market somehow! ESPN could make it happen without a doubt!
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33laszlo99
Maybe ESPN could make it happen. But why would they?
All the other conferences are wheelin' & dealin' and everybody gets the impulse that The ACC should follow. The ACC owns no content... NONE! It all belongs to ESPN 'til 2036. They have nothing to sell to ESPN or any other network. ESPN already has the rights for Cincy and WVU. They got the benefit of a big TV audience for Pitt/WVU this season and they can have more of the same without moving anybody anywhere. Why do you think WVU and Cincy will join The ACC when so many ACC members are dying to get out? That's a hard sell.
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Truthahn
I'd like this, too. And some B12 teams to the PAC, too.
If we can get the PAC to also take a few B12 teams, we could divide up that new B12 contract. ** Edited by Truthahn at 11/3/2022, 2:39:37 PM
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Truthahn
So, if we somehow boot Duke out of the ACC ...
They would end up in the B12 for sure. Interesting. The breakaway ACC eight rumors should take this into account. I would expect any breakaway league from the ACC would include everyone except maybe Wake and BC. Duke would have to come along. ** Edited by Truthahn at 11/3/2022, 2:36:15 PM
VTHokie2000 VTHokie2000
Given that UCF is scheduled to join the Big XII next year, if Gonzaga also
joins too, then that will be a long plane ride (Orlando to Spokane).
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HOO86
Would WVU still want to sit in a Conference like that?
Travel is bad enough now getting to the existing Big XII locations. I can't imagine. I could actually, and it's not pretty.
VTHokie2000 VTHokie2000
Yes, if the Big XII is still the best option for them.
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WBGV OP
Travel would be a nightmare, and what about Gonzaga’s other sports.
You can’t just move basketball because no other conference is going to want Gonzaga without basketball including the conference they are in now (WCC). It is going to be interesting to see how the rest of the college sports world reacts to this possibility.
VTHokie2000 VTHokie2000
Here's a link to Gonzaga's athletic website. I think Gonzaga can move most
of its athletics to the Big XII, but maybe not all of them. If most of the sports end up in the Big XII, it is likely that UCF, Cincy, and WVU may only make trips to Spokane for maybe half of them because the "regular season" for some of the sports (i.e. baseball, soccer, tennis, etc.) only allows a team to play the other conference foes 1 game or 1 series. Even if Oregon State and Wazzou end up in the Big XII as @tarheelblue suggests, there's no guarantee that UCF, Cincy, or WVU would have their conference schedule arranged so they play all 3 away or at home in the same season. I suspect most seasons they would only get to play 1 team or 2 teams if they are lucky. Likewise, the same scenario could apply to Gonzaga, Oregon St, and Wazzou. I probably would include Iowa State on that list given that the flight time from Ames, IA to Spokane, WA is somewhere between 5.5 and 7 hours including travel time to Des Moines, IA (Des Moines International Airport). It doesn't appear there are any direct flights between those 2 airports, so I don't know if the schools would be able to charter a direct flight vs. have a connecting flight in either Minneapolis or Denver. FWIW I know some of the "smaller DI schools" are willing to do the connecting flight option because I have seen tweets where a team was stuck at an airport due to bad weather. The reason I was curious about the travel time between those 2 airports is because either school could be starting a multi-game road trip or heading home from a multi-game road trip and it could be a much bigger issue for games played during the middle of the week. Also, it would give me an idea of the time range for the other Big XII members in Kansas, Oklahoma, and Texas.
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tarheelblue
If the Pac-12 implodes and the Big 12 takes WSU and OSU it could work.
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WBGV OP
Locked on ZAGS podcast with Andy Patton
What it would look like if the Gonzaga Bulldogs joined the Big 12 Conference. “The Gonzaga Bulldogs are known to be in talks with the Big 12 Conference, potentially positioning Mark Few's team to join a league with Baylor, Kansas, Houston, and old foe BYU in the near future. Today's episode is a crossover between Locked on Zags host Andy Patton and Locked on Big 12 host Josh Neighbors, as they explore the pros and cons of this partnership. Topics discussed include: if this is a move to try to get more money out of the Pac-12 conference, what it means for the Big East, how travel might work, whether Gonzaga's other sports would be included, what rivalries may or may not develop, where the Big 12 would rank among basketball conferences, how the media rights deal could be altered, road environments, and much much more!”
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Stech
Said it below, don’t underrate 🦊 being the lead network for B12 🏀
And as former ESPN President John Skipper and former Fox Sports CEO Bob Thompson indicated, don’t underrate how much money can eventually be made in college basketball.
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Mercury
ok the scenario Big 10 and Big 12 match up fox and sec acc on espn
yep polarization
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WBGV OP
Now that Fox has B12 basketball, they might be the one pushing this idea.
TV ratings would be off the charts with more money to be made (as you alluded too in your other postings). Gonzaga playing a Big 12 schedule: GZ - KU, GZ - BU, GZ - TT, GZ - UH, etc., would get monster TV ratings. I’m still skeptical about the logistics, but I guess if there is enough money in it for everyone involved, they will somehow make it work. ** Edited by WBGV at 11/2/2022, 11:56:57 PM
HokieAl HokieAl
I find this rumor particularly interesting
If true then it unlocks several potential next steps. And even if it doesn’t happen, props to the B12 for being creative and weaving their straw into gold. 1. Huge for basketball, in what is already the second best P5 league (ACC still #1 with all our titles) 2. Zags alone would be on an island. But, look at who is a short distance away from them and could expand the conference geography and would likely jump. Wash St, Oregon St, and Boise St. 3. If the B12 can get the northwest, the. It helps their sales pitch to the four corner schools. Zags open the door and give a path for the B12 to get up to as many as 20 if they want. All speculation of course. But the potential is there if this rumor is true.
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WBGV OP
New York Post: Gonzaga in talks to join Big 12 in what would be major
college basketball shake-up. “Such a move would send shockwaves across the college basketball landscape. Gonzaga, which has been the dominant team in the WCC for years, has more recently emerged as a national powerhouse. The Zags reached the national championship game in 2017 and 2021. They would be joining a conference with significantly more revenue that also saw members Baylor and Kansas win the past two national titles.” Major conference realignment news being reported in every major newspaper in the country. I personally think that Gonzaga would be a much better fit in the Big East. Some podcasters are reporting that the networks (Fox & ESPN) wanted Big 12 Commissioner Yormark to talk to athletic director Chris Standiford about possible membership. It still seems like a long shot at best. ** Edited by WBGV at 11/2/2022, 8:49:29 PM
Maroon Baboon Maroon Baboon
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2hhoop3
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