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harlote101 OP
Dec 13, 2021 at 09:44 PM ET
ESPN Value Prop Enhanced Even as Cable TV Audience Fractures
Not sure I agree with the premise of Magnus (ESPN SVP of programming) arguement especially since The article states ESPN+ isnt profitable WTH?


https://www.sportico.com/business/media/2021/espn-survive...
[Post edited by harlote101 at 12/13/2021 9:44PM]

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tarheelblue
In related news, YouTubeTV drops Dinsey/ESPN channels and reduces price $15
So YouTubeTV now costs $50/month without Disney/ABC/ESPN channels. And Hulu+Live TV (owned by disney) recently raised its price to $70/month, but it now includes Disney+ and ESPN+ as part of that price.
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Stech
That's going to be a very interesting test to the market.
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tarheelblue
And only one day later Disney folds. Disney channels return to YouTubeTV
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2hhoop3
On what do you base .......
the statement that Disney folded?
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tarheelblue
YouTube announced they would drop the channels and reduce the price.
So it seems logical that since YouTube had already informed their customers about the removal of the channel and the price reduction that they were fully prepared to go through with it. This move by YouTube seemed to call Disney's bluff. I could be wrong, but that's what makes most sense to me.

[Post edited by tarheelblue at 12/20/2021 1:27PM]
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2hhoop3
Or.......
After only one day the subscriber exodus left YouTube no choice. The point is not that you could not be right but, that based on currently known information there really is NO basis to make your original statement or assert that is the most logical conclusion.
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tarheelblue
You could be right, but I think my theory is more likely than yours.
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2hhoop3
You are entitled to your opinion.......
How familiar are you with the industry? In these situations who most often has more to lose, the carrier or the content provider? Any idea about the respective balance sheets of YTTV and Disney and their ability to absorb a revenue shock? I do not believe your theory is anywhere near as likely as you do.
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Stech
Wow, must have been hit hard by the market to do that.
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ChrisLords
I'm not surprised ESPN+ is not profitable...
They put everything that was on ESPN3 plus Ultimate fighting and ACCN Extra and other stuff. That's a lot of expense to charge off at $6 a month.
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MaskedRacer
***E+ paid too much for La Liga among other things
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HOO86
ESPN and CBS (Paramount+) have been fiercely competing over soccer
These World Soccer Leagues have to have cost that hits the ESPN+ bottom line too. ESPN signed up La Liga and Bundesliga. CBS signed up Serie A, Brasileiro Série A, and Argentine Primera Division. All of this was prompted by NBC's success with English Premier League. Ligue 1 is still on BeIN Sports for now.

After gobbling up half a dozen of the top soccer leagues in the world, I wonder if they are making money on them.
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MaskedRacer
**La Liga is very overrated so I think not
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Stech
So ESPN owns everything in a losing business, hmmm, interesting model.
I know a lot of businesses are built on losing money in the early stages so that they can get the major share and then jack up the price because you are the only option, but that doesn't always work either.

You know things like, you need to expand the College Football Playoff to generate more money, but the Conferences and ND (same number of votes as the ACC and SEC etc.) can't see eye to eye.

Dang that Texas A&M!! :-)

[Post edited by Stech at 12/14/2021 07:24AM]
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harlote101 OP
No subject
I fixed it sorry about that
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RJHokie
Not a good link.
Link does not directly link the article.