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HokieToph
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Major problems here...

first, if the NCAA tournament loses 25% of teams that typically qualify for the tournament, that would have significant loss of value to the overall tournament. Second, with the massive influx of cash to the P2, it is inevitable that their basketball programs would become successful as well. It is very realistic that a P2 basketball tournament would become a big-time moneymaker. they'd create a 48-team tournament where every team qualified (like some state HS tournies) and likely leave a couple qualifying spots for non-P2 teams. The NCAA distributed $625 million from this past tournament. that doesn't equate to a huge amount of money when spread out over 150+ schools.. Anyway you look at it, the P2 comes out ahead. NCAA basketball tourney is not going to be the magnet that, if I understand correctly, you're describing here.
Posted: 07/09/2022 at 10:38 AM ET
(In response to this post by Stech)

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Okay you know I love you, but I don’t think you knuckleheads get it, that’s
Stech • 07/08/22 05:13 PM ET
No offense, but you’re playing checkers at a chess tournament.**
marcbvtgm • 07/09/22 04:37 PM ET
Major problems here... ◄
HokieToph • 07/09/22 10:38 AM ET
Lets say there is 48 teams that break away from the NCAA, or even 64
Maroon Baboon • 07/10/22 01:44 AM ET
Some problems I see.
wwhokie1 • 07/08/22 09:03 PM ET
Answers inside.
Stech • 07/08/22 10:07 PM ET
Does the bball tourney money NOT go to the schools now?
TDVick • 07/08/22 08:45 PM ET
Goes to the NCAA, the football money goes to the Conferences/schools/**
Stech • 07/08/22 10:09 PM ET
I'd see if ND would join IF we added Stanford, Cal, UW, UO, and WVU/Navy
daveinop • 07/08/22 08:32 PM ET
Lots of rumors about all of that, first priority I think is who does ND
Stech • 07/08/22 10:15 PM ET
You're talking about decreasing individual school's payouts
EDGEMAN • 07/08/22 08:55 PM ET
All the other B10 and SEC schools must not get it either, because they
JohnsonCItyHokie • 07/08/22 07:47 PM ET
You're right for now, but don't skate to the puck, skate where it's going!
Stech • 07/08/22 08:12 PM ET
Well... not so sure about your stats...
jesuisvtguy • 07/08/22 07:43 PM ET
2021: Navy #34, Miami #35. 2015-2019: Miami #23, Navy #37
Maroon Baboon • 07/08/22 09:08 PM ET
I know it's only one game, but I would bet the Army-Navy game skews the
VPI_1998 • 07/09/22 05:31 AM ET
I know it's only one game, but I bet the Army-Navy game skews the numbers
VPI_1998 • 07/09/22 05:26 AM ET
And one of the reasons Navy has slightly better numbers than Army is due to
Maroon Baboon • 07/10/22 01:36 AM ET
Again: Their methodology is EXTREMELY FLAWED...
jesuisvtguy • 07/08/22 09:20 PM ET
Of course it's flawed, or at least there are other variables at work.
Maroon Baboon • 07/08/22 09:30 PM ET
Not so sure, don't give your opinion, look them up and then let me know.
Stech • 07/08/22 08:14 PM ET
On which part? Where did I err? Do you have a reference to research...
jesuisvtguy • 07/08/22 09:23 PM ET
I still think the ACC should help itself with a missing rivalry
HOO86 • 07/08/22 07:32 PM ET
I would be very happy with WVU, I agree on the rivalries for football, but
Stech • 07/08/22 08:18 PM ET
A couple things
Pylons • 07/08/22 07:20 PM ET
A relative of mind for many decades was known as Mr. Grant at Virginia Tech
Stech • 07/08/22 09:02 PM ET
No, doesn't change my mind
Pylons • 07/09/22 12:21 AM ET
you think the ncaat is still worth $1B after P2 break?
HokieHollar • 07/08/22 07:03 PM ET
Good question, it may go down some at first, let's say it drops to 800 mill
Stech • 07/08/22 09:06 PM ET
It is dropping.....
2hhoop3 • 07/09/22 03:07 PM ET
NCAA made 870 million this year and most of the money is for later rounds,
Stech • 07/09/22 04:22 PM ET
Can you show me where...
2hhoop3 • 07/09/22 04:36 PM ET
Can you show it is not? I read have tons of articles recently & I remember
Stech • 07/09/22 04:48 PM ET
Not going down this road again......
2hhoop3 • 07/09/22 05:17 PM ET
LOL you want to prove me wrong do it, if not 🤷‍♂️
Stech • 07/09/22 05:42 PM ET
well, there's clearly at least one thing you don't get
Pylons • 07/08/22 07:03 PM ET
We can agree to disagree respectfully, or at least I will respect you, but
Stech • 07/08/22 09:08 PM ET
Sorry if it seemed disrespectful.
Pylons • 07/09/22 02:42 PM ET
They might equally value Stanford. Don't know if Stanford would join
daveinop • 07/08/22 06:56 PM ET
Yeah I would have said Stanford was nuts 9 days ago, but after USC/UCLA
Stech • 07/08/22 09:30 PM ET
duplicate
daveinop • 07/08/22 06:54 PM ET
duplicate
daveinop • 07/08/22 06:52 PM ET
If it later also becomes about men's basketball, add UConn, not Navy.
Old Line Hokie • 07/08/22 06:46 PM ET
UConn or Kansas would be good one's too. I think Navy would get ND off the
Stech • 07/08/22 09:36 PM ET
But this ignores a key function of the NCAA...tax exempt status
HokieAl • 07/08/22 06:44 PM ET
I am involved in 501-C3's, and one of the biggest categories is for sports,
Stech • 07/08/22 09:39 PM ET
🚢 Navy to ACC? 1️⃣ ND wouldn't do it. 2️⃣ Navy wouldn't a SHOULDN'T do it.
Maroon Baboon • 07/08/22 06:30 PM ET
I had this thought too, but...
VTHal • 07/08/22 06:05 PM ET
I’m all in for a 64 team NCAA with the best of the rest. Let the big2 and
cricket77 • 07/08/22 05:59 PM ET
Four Conferences 16 teams in each, SEC is done, B1G is done, the ACC needs
Stech • 07/08/22 08:29 PM ET
so a P64 plays reg season bball to seed the tourney and screw the others?
244oshag • 07/08/22 05:27 PM ET
You won't get a dime, but Virginia Tech will and it will help all sports,
Stech • 07/08/22 05:33 PM ET
yeah, i get that and rather be a have then a not but I will ***** either
244oshag • 07/08/22 06:11 PM ET
You are welcome, they will share it like the share the football playoff $$,
Stech • 07/08/22 09:43 PM ET
Also 244oshag, the others will have another tournament, probably run by the
Stech • 07/08/22 05:37 PM ET
You lose cinderella and you lose some of that $1B
VT Pops • 07/08/22 06:09 PM ET
I hear you Pops, but I see the other schools having their own tournament
Stech • 07/08/22 09:50 PM ET