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VTHokie2000
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All teams aren't equal though and that is the point you are overlooking or

missing here. Even all the European soccer leagues acknowledge the fact that some teams carry more value than others.

EPL
More Valuable: ManU, Man City, Chelsea, Spurs, Arsensal, Liverpool, Everton, and maybe West Ham

Less Valuable: Burnley, Wolves, Brentford, Watford, Norwich, Leeds United, Aston Villa, etc.

Bundesliga
More Valuable: Bayern, Dortmund, Leverkusen, Monchenglabach, maybe Hoffenheim, and maybe Wolfsburg

Less Valuable: Furth, Hertha Berlin, Arminia, Bochum, Union Berlin, Stuttgart, etc.

La Liga
More Valuable: Real Madrid, Barcelona, Atletico Madrid, Sevilla, Real Sociedad, Villareal, and Athletic Club

Less Valuable: Alaves, Levante, Granada, Elche, Getafe, Cadiz, Celta Vigo, etc.

Serie A
More Valuable: Inter, Milan, Roma, Napoli, Juventus, Lazio, and maybe Atalanta

Less Valuable: Torino, Empoli, Spezia, Genoa, Sassuolo, Verona, etc.

Ligue 1
More Valuable: PSG, Marseille, Nice, Monaco, and Lyon

Less Valuable: Troyes, Clermont Foot, Lorient, Bordeaux, Metz, Angers, etc.

A college football league would be no different. IIWII
Posted: 04/12/2022 at 10:25 PM ET
(In response to this post by Maroon Baboon)

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Dabo Swinney on CFB: "40 or 50 teams and a commissioner"
goldendomer 04/09/22 12:01 AM ET
6 conferences of 7 teams each
obguthr 04/10/22 11:03 AM ET
UNC and UVA will follow the money**
MrFantastic! 04/12/22 05:56 AM ET
How much television revenue would it generate?**
EDGEMAN 04/11/22 10:06 AM ET
Gee, maybe there will be a TRANSFORMATION COMMITTEE that works on this
daveinop 04/10/22 08:36 AM ET
My first question: Would VT follow into this new alignment?**
VTNSC 04/09/22 12:27 PM ET
If we are talking closer to 40 teams, then probably not unless VT
VTHokie2000 04/09/22 02:41 PM ET
For the sake of argument, what impact would be on VT if it were included
IB4TECH 04/16/22 09:19 AM ET
Good question. It might depend on what "rules" the group agrees upon.
VTHokie2000 04/16/22 11:25 AM ET
Currently only about 15 or fewer schools average 80,000. VT typically ranks
wwhokie1 04/13/22 03:00 PM ET
The number was just a random number I threw out there.
VTHokie2000 04/13/22 03:41 PM ET
According to a 2020 article by College Football News the top 40 in
wwhokie1 04/13/22 05:25 PM ET
I don't disagree if attendance is the deciding factor.
VTHokie2000 04/13/22 05:30 PM ET
Its not atemdamce. Its money
Mercury 04/11/22 08:18 AM ET
Attendance will be a factor though because this league will want programs
VTHokie2000 04/12/22 04:18 AM ET
Stadium capacity does not need to increase.**
marcbvtgm 04/10/22 03:47 PM ET
If the new league decides to have a minimum stadium requirement in order
VTHokie2000 04/12/22 04:20 AM ET
Lane is in the Top 25 in stadium capacity right now.
Maroon Baboon 04/09/22 03:35 PM ET
Yes, VT can add to Lane. However, there is no guarantee that the
VTHokie2000 04/09/22 06:11 PM ET
Ok lets do math
Mercury 04/11/22 08:20 AM ET
And consider the impact of money spent. Money spent on expanding Lane will
wwhokie1 04/13/22 05:33 PM ET
Maybe decrease the price of admission or give unsold tickets to...
EDGEMAN 04/14/22 09:49 AM ET
A 20 team league is way too small. Would destroy interest**
jesuisvtguy 04/11/22 12:04 AM ET
Maybe it will and maybe it won't. If the schools truly commit to the idea,
VTHokie2000 04/12/22 04:06 AM ET
Duplicate post. Sorry. Delete. Thanks.**
Maroon Baboon 04/09/22 09:57 PM ET
If it is 16-20 teams, we won't be in it anyway.
Maroon Baboon 04/09/22 09:56 PM ET
As I stated before if the league is 40-50 teams, then VT could still
VTHokie2000 04/12/22 04:29 AM ET
I'm assuming they won't do it this way if they do it at all.
Maroon Baboon 04/12/22 01:36 PM ET
Why use Wyoming as an example? I certainly never used Wyoming
VTHokie2000 04/12/22 10:09 PM ET
I didn't see your list, but it really doesn't matter.
Maroon Baboon 04/12/22 11:14 PM ET
I don't believe the Big XII is done expanding. Likewise, I wouldn't
VTHokie2000 04/12/22 11:22 PM ET
You may be right. And demographics change over time. That's all the more
Maroon Baboon 04/12/22 11:58 PM ET
Promotion/Relegation isn't in the American culture though. If it was, then
VTHokie2000 04/13/22 02:11 PM ET
I realize it isn't in the American sports culture, but it should be.
Maroon Baboon 04/13/22 03:34 PM ET
Depending on how things play out, it may not take JMU as long as you think
VTHokie2000 04/13/22 03:51 PM ET
Who says who is in or out?
33laszlo99 04/09/22 03:12 PM ET
Typically those paying for it have a say. If it's ESPN TV money they will.**
RTFC 04/10/22 10:27 PM ET
Actually, I didn't have anyone in mind because it may end up being
VTHokie2000 04/09/22 05:58 PM ET
And to whose benefit would it be if conferences fractured and disposed of
33laszlo99 04/09/22 08:24 PM ET
The schools' benefit. Fewer teams = larger piece of pie for each school
VTHokie2000 04/12/22 04:46 AM ET
Dabo**
Mercury 04/09/22 04:47 PM ET
Dabo is right that the P5 need their own setup.
Hokester 04/09/22 10:01 AM ET
Might as well move into an NFL-EPL hybrid model for football
EDGEMAN 04/09/22 11:26 AM ET
EFL yes. NFL no.
Maroon Baboon 04/09/22 03:51 PM ET
I think stadium size would be a good qualifier
EDGEMAN 04/09/22 06:27 PM ET
Should keep in mind that NFL average capacity does not even reach 70,000**
wwhokie1 04/13/22 05:37 PM ET
Average attendance would be better.
obguthr 04/10/22 12:29 PM ET
In that case, Miami will definitely be "out"**
EDGEMAN 04/10/22 01:39 PM ET
Pitt has a big stadium that they don't own, that is half full usually.
Maroon Baboon 04/09/22 09:19 PM ET
Attendance will force schools to adjust their ticket prices
EDGEMAN 04/10/22 08:35 AM ET
Where do they draw the line?
Maroon Baboon 04/09/22 12:32 AM ET
Number of teams will ultimately be informed by media content requirement
Synaesthesia 04/09/22 12:32 PM ET
It's all predicated on how many regular season games each school will play
Maroon Baboon 04/09/22 03:15 PM ET
I don't hate the idea of relegation; 'boundary' programs are always hurt
Synaesthesia 04/09/22 03:46 PM ET
When did UConn announce it was returning to DI-FCS in football?
VTHokie2000 04/09/22 06:14 PM ET
You're right, I thought it was finalized, but just under consideration**
Synaesthesia 04/09/22 06:48 PM ET
No worries. Personally, I do think UConn and UMass should both switch
VTHokie2000 04/09/22 07:30 PM ET
Valid concerns. If you look at the EFL, they have yo-yo clubs.
Maroon Baboon 04/09/22 04:03 PM ET
The problem with doing it every year is that all the participating teams
VTHokie2000 04/09/22 06:22 PM ET
It can and should be every year. And the home and away thing won't be
Maroon Baboon 04/09/22 10:03 PM ET
You can't be sure it won't be a problem though. For example, let say this
VTHokie2000 04/12/22 04:11 AM ET
Actually, this schedule makes the home games more of a lock.
Maroon Baboon 04/12/22 11:58 AM ET
All teams aren't equal though and that is the point you are overlooking or
VTHokie2000 04/12/22 10:25 PM ET
I'm not over looking it. But when you play a legit FULL schedule
Maroon Baboon 04/12/22 11:03 PM ET
But you can't say that VT's home schedule is equal to its away schedule
VTHokie2000 04/12/22 11:16 PM ET
I will address your concerns one at a time
Maroon Baboon 04/13/22 12:07 AM ET
I hate to disappoint you, but your A) answer failed to address my
VTHokie2000 04/13/22 09:48 AM ET
To clarify.
Maroon Baboon 04/13/22 11:21 AM ET
To clarify - I wasn't asking you to try to persuade me on the position
VTHokie2000 04/13/22 11:53 AM ET
Time to think outside the box
33laszlo99 04/09/22 02:34 PM ET
ESPN is involved because - you are right
RTFC 04/10/22 10:50 PM ET
Totally agree about ESPN. Their interests are counter to the longterm
Maroon Baboon 04/09/22 03:24 PM ET
The thing is though, they don't do that in the many pro sports with a cap
Synaesthesia 04/09/22 03:22 PM ET
We are in the wild west for now.
goldendomer 04/09/22 12:46 AM ET
I see another division (P-4 or P-5)
Old Line Hokie 04/09/22 08:36 AM ET
The problem is, conferences are no longer equal.
Maroon Baboon 04/09/22 04:17 PM ET
When was the last time conferences were equal?**
Old Line Hokie 04/09/22 08:10 PM ET
Never. But the disparity was much closer in the past. Between 1968 and 1981
Maroon Baboon 04/09/22 11:41 PM ET
My guess now is 48, I really thought it would be 4 PC’s w/ 16, but it’s
Stech 04/09/22 03:26 AM ET
Question for thought
Mercury 04/09/22 07:42 AM ET
VT, the university, has for decades been more alike the Big 10
Synaesthesia 04/09/22 02:33 PM ET
Agreed, but having that elusive AAU card would still be helpful**
obguthr 04/10/22 11:08 AM ET
Thank you so much !!!!!! bingo
Mercury 04/09/22 04:55 PM ET