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Andy Staples weighs in:
Andy Staples weighs in:
In his 1-20-22 mailbag column in The Athletic, Andy Staples was asked if the recent no vote on college football playoff expansion by the ACC was an attempt to force ND football into the ACC. His response was in part as follows:
"To keep the ACC from being raided by the Big Ten — and then, inevitably, by the SEC — and ripped apart, Swofford made a deal with Notre Dame for its sports besides football and five football games a year between the Fighting Irish and ACC teams. This allowed for a more lucrative TV deal that ultimately allowed for the creation of the ACC Network. It also allowed for the signing of a grant of rights that eliminated the possibility of the Big Ten going after North Carolina or Georgia Tech or Duke or Virginia. But the price of that security gets steeper with each passing year. To make the deal, the ACC had to agree to a longer term.
The deal runs through June 2036 and since it already places the ACC fourth in media rights revenue, the gap between the ACC and the Big Ten/SEC will only grow wider as the years pass. This is a bad deal for Phillips and the ACC school administrators stuck dealing with it. So why not rip Swofford for it? Because the ACC as we know it probably wouldn’t exist without that deal. This was the bargain: You’ll survive, but it’s going to hurt.
Its vote for CFP expansion — in a system requiring unanimous decisions for change — is the last shred of leverage the ACC has when it comes to the possibility of Notre Dame joining as a football member. The second a 12-team CFP with six at-large spots passes, Notre Dame never needs to consider joining a league in football ever again. Phillips said last week that trying to rope in Notre Dame isn’t a concern.
Such statements insult everyone’s intelligence. For the ACC, getting Notre Dame to join in football — which might allow for an adjustment of the never-ending media rights deal — is the only concern."
[Post edited by TerryD at 01/22/2022 10:22AM]
In his 1-20-22 mailbag column in The Athletic, Andy Staples was asked if the recent no vote on college football playoff expansion by the ACC was an attempt to force ND football into the ACC. His response was in part as follows:
"To keep the ACC from being raided by the Big Ten — and then, inevitably, by the SEC — and ripped apart, Swofford made a deal with Notre Dame for its sports besides football and five football games a year between the Fighting Irish and ACC teams. This allowed for a more lucrative TV deal that ultimately allowed for the creation of the ACC Network. It also allowed for the signing of a grant of rights that eliminated the possibility of the Big Ten going after North Carolina or Georgia Tech or Duke or Virginia. But the price of that security gets steeper with each passing year. To make the deal, the ACC had to agree to a longer term.
The deal runs through June 2036 and since it already places the ACC fourth in media rights revenue, the gap between the ACC and the Big Ten/SEC will only grow wider as the years pass. This is a bad deal for Phillips and the ACC school administrators stuck dealing with it. So why not rip Swofford for it? Because the ACC as we know it probably wouldn’t exist without that deal. This was the bargain: You’ll survive, but it’s going to hurt.
Its vote for CFP expansion — in a system requiring unanimous decisions for change — is the last shred of leverage the ACC has when it comes to the possibility of Notre Dame joining as a football member. The second a 12-team CFP with six at-large spots passes, Notre Dame never needs to consider joining a league in football ever again. Phillips said last week that trying to rope in Notre Dame isn’t a concern.
Such statements insult everyone’s intelligence. For the ACC, getting Notre Dame to join in football — which might allow for an adjustment of the never-ending media rights deal — is the only concern."
[Post edited by TerryD at 01/22/2022 10:22AM]
Thread Replies (49)
Sports Illustrated The Fight Over College Sports Is Here
-- harlote101
Jan 20, 2022 at 05:13 PM ET
harlote101
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01/20/22 05:13 PM ET
Texas A&M and Jim Phillips have successfully changed the narrative
-- PaNDalum
Jan 20, 2022 at 09:55 PM ET
PaNDalum
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01/20/22 09:55 PM ET
There seems to be a lot of thought of the P5 breaking from the NCAA
-- Vienna_Hokie
Jan 21, 2022 at 01:07 PM ET
Vienna_Hokie
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01/21/22 01:07 PM ET
If the P5s just want it to be either football-only or football and
-- VTHokie2000
Jan 21, 2022 at 01:48 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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01/21/22 01:48 PM ET
Spot on, this summer I was doubtful this could happen, but Phillips has
-- Stech
Jan 21, 2022 at 07:52 AM ET
Stech
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01/21/22 07:52 AM ET
Why would $85 million not be possible for ND as an independent?
-- Truthahn
Jan 21, 2022 at 01:09 PM ET
Truthahn
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01/21/22 01:09 PM ET
NBC pays ND around 22-23 million a year
-- TerryD
Jan 21, 2022 at 01:40 PM ET
TerryD
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01/21/22 01:40 PM ET
Honestly, not sure if this has sarcasm or not
-- RTFC
Jan 22, 2022 at 12:39 AM ET
RTFC
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01/22/22 12:39 AM ET
He asked me why ND would not just stay independent in a P2 era
-- TerryD
Jan 22, 2022 at 09:34 AM ET
TerryD
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01/22/22 09:34 AM ET
Agree, if ND chooses to accept a pay the players model
-- RTFC
Jan 22, 2022 at 09:58 AM ET
RTFC
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01/22/22 09:58 AM ET
Doesn’t the acc pay VT 38 million?
-- Truthahn
Jan 21, 2022 at 09:14 PM ET
Truthahn
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01/21/22 09:14 PM ET
Yeah, I see the writing on the wall.
-- goldendomer
Jan 21, 2022 at 01:25 AM ET
goldendomer
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01/21/22 01:25 AM ET
A comment and question about Notre Dame tradition for you and @TerryD
-- Maroon Baboon
Jan 21, 2022 at 11:16 AM ET
Maroon Baboon
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01/21/22 11:16 AM ET
It is beyond a tradition at ND. Independence is what made us the brand we
-- goldendomer
Jan 21, 2022 at 12:58 PM ET
goldendomer
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01/21/22 12:58 PM ET
It is not a "tradition". It is Notre Dame's very identity
-- TerryD
Jan 21, 2022 at 02:32 PM ET
TerryD
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01/21/22 02:32 PM ET
I think ND threw the origin story away with the partial ACC membership
-- Maroon Baboon
Jan 21, 2022 at 03:45 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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01/21/22 03:45 PM ET
I didn't say it was noble. I just said it was unique, based on history**
-- TerryD
Jan 21, 2022 at 11:33 PM ET
TerryD
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01/21/22 11:33 PM ET
Actually it is partial independence, too. Independish!**
-- Truthahn
Jan 21, 2022 at 09:21 PM ET
Truthahn
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01/21/22 09:21 PM ET
I like the ACC better, and loathe the idea of the Big ten
-- goldendomer
Jan 21, 2022 at 03:58 PM ET
goldendomer
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01/21/22 03:58 PM ET
One of the main reasons ND independence worked
-- RTFC
Jan 21, 2022 at 02:01 PM ET
RTFC
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01/21/22 02:01 PM ET
How did ND attract all of those eastern Catholics in the first place?
-- TerryD
Jan 21, 2022 at 02:29 PM ET
TerryD
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01/21/22 02:29 PM ET
ND had a bunch of Catholic fans wayway before that
-- TerryD
Jan 21, 2022 at 05:42 PM ET
TerryD
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01/21/22 05:42 PM ET
The reply was not contending....
-- 2hhoop3
Jan 21, 2022 at 06:35 PM ET
2hhoop3
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01/21/22 06:35 PM ET
Nope. I didn't say traveling to play teams wasn't a good idea,
-- RTFC
Jan 21, 2022 at 03:18 PM ET
RTFC
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01/21/22 03:18 PM ET
ND fans are the only ones who count on this subject
-- TerryD
Jan 21, 2022 at 05:51 PM ET
TerryD
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01/21/22 05:51 PM ET
When they want special rules for a team
-- RTFC
Jan 22, 2022 at 01:09 AM ET
RTFC
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01/22/22 01:09 AM ET
Don't forget the convicts vs Catholics games
-- EDGEMAN
Jan 21, 2022 at 12:09 PM ET
EDGEMAN
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01/21/22 12:09 PM ET
Excellent post. In that scenario ND will end up somewhere, or
-- RTFC
Jan 20, 2022 at 11:35 PM ET
RTFC
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01/20/22 11:35 PM ET
The re-org may be dysfunctional simply because the schools
-- VTHokie2000
Jan 20, 2022 at 10:04 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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01/20/22 10:04 PM ET
Frankly, some of the non-rev conferences need realigning too.
-- Maroon Baboon
Jan 21, 2022 at 11:27 AM ET
Maroon Baboon
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01/21/22 11:27 AM ET
Oh I agree that some non-revenue sports shouldn't be in a major conference
-- VTHokie2000
Jan 21, 2022 at 11:45 AM ET
VTHokie2000
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01/21/22 11:45 AM ET
If the new association is a for-profit one, then what does that mean for
-- VTHokie2000
Jan 20, 2022 at 09:41 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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01/20/22 09:41 PM ET
I didn't notice any time deadlines in the article - this can drag out
-- PadrosWindup
Jan 20, 2022 at 09:17 PM ET
PadrosWindup
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01/20/22 09:17 PM ET
August: "the committee’s real work begins after the convention; a spring
-- Stech
Jan 21, 2022 at 12:37 PM ET
Stech
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01/21/22 12:37 PM ET
I could see this dragging out to where the current contract has expired
-- VTHokie2000
Jan 20, 2022 at 09:43 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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01/20/22 09:43 PM ET
Given the money to be made on a new playoffs I don't see that happening.
-- Truthahn
Jan 21, 2022 at 01:19 PM ET
Truthahn
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01/21/22 01:19 PM ET
You are forgetting that a new contract or even a NCAA solution may not
-- VTHokie2000
Jan 21, 2022 at 01:37 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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01/21/22 01:37 PM ET
Yes, a very small risk of the plus one ncaa game.
-- Truthahn
Jan 21, 2022 at 09:29 PM ET
Truthahn
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01/21/22 09:29 PM ET
Under the current DI structure, a P5 Playoff would violate antitrust laws.
-- VTHokie2000
Jan 22, 2022 at 09:50 AM ET
VTHokie2000
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01/22/22 09:50 AM ET
I'd prefer to fall back to the pre-BCS era honestly.
-- Maroon Baboon
Jan 20, 2022 at 10:09 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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01/20/22 10:09 PM ET
Me too, but I could see the schools (or the bowls) decide to
-- VTHokie2000
Jan 20, 2022 at 10:14 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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01/20/22 10:14 PM ET
That mindset works for football, basketball, and a few of the non-revenue
-- VTHokie2000
Jan 20, 2022 at 07:38 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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01/20/22 07:38 PM ET
Jim Phillips ACC Commish is one of two P5's on the restructuring committee.
-- Stech
Jan 20, 2022 at 07:13 PM ET
Stech
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01/20/22 07:13 PM ET
Let winning be the standard. Bring on relegation and promotion.
-- Maroon Baboon
Jan 20, 2022 at 06:05 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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01/20/22 06:05 PM ET