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Creating a fourth division will not prevent the breakaway. It is too late. The major conferences will withdraw from the NCAA and I'm not sure there is enough unity among them to form a single new governance entity. There may be two new organizations and they will include any conferences who wish to join (P5, G5, others). They will be in competition with one another. The NCAA, if it continues to exist, will resemble the NAIA.
The NCAA is regarded by the major conferences as a money pit; an expensive obligation that consumes their basketball revenue and gives them gives little or nothing in return.
I imagine the new organization as a for-profit corporation which will generate money-making lines of business, one of which will be regulation/governance of collegiate sports. There is an obvious need for consulting and managing issues in NIL. Many other half-formed ideas occur to me.
In the previous thread, the headaches associated with the CFP expansion cause me to wonder if the conferences are pursuing expansion because it's good for college football or because of the malignant intrusion of ESPN into the planning, growth, and operation of college football. Do the conferences want this or is ESPN seducing the colleges with cash. That problem could be solved if the new organization created a dedicated college sports cable network serving its membership and any others who wish to commit their media rights; a replacement, in effect, for ESPN, owned by the conferences.
Some media rights contracts between now and 2026 will be negotiated with big changes in mind. Forget about P5, G5, and CPF. Everything is about to change. The ACC must find a way to scrap the current GoR in order to take advantage of the new way of running college sports.
The NCAA is regarded by the major conferences as a money pit; an expensive obligation that consumes their basketball revenue and gives them gives little or nothing in return.
I imagine the new organization as a for-profit corporation which will generate money-making lines of business, one of which will be regulation/governance of collegiate sports. There is an obvious need for consulting and managing issues in NIL. Many other half-formed ideas occur to me.
In the previous thread, the headaches associated with the CFP expansion cause me to wonder if the conferences are pursuing expansion because it's good for college football or because of the malignant intrusion of ESPN into the planning, growth, and operation of college football. Do the conferences want this or is ESPN seducing the colleges with cash. That problem could be solved if the new organization created a dedicated college sports cable network serving its membership and any others who wish to commit their media rights; a replacement, in effect, for ESPN, owned by the conferences.
Some media rights contracts between now and 2026 will be negotiated with big changes in mind. Forget about P5, G5, and CPF. Everything is about to change. The ACC must find a way to scrap the current GoR in order to take advantage of the new way of running college sports.
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Sports Illustrated The Fight Over College Sports Is Here
-- harlote101
Jan 20, 2022 at 05:13 PM ET
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01/20/22 05:13 PM ET
Texas A&M and Jim Phillips have successfully changed the narrative
-- PaNDalum
Jan 20, 2022 at 09:55 PM ET
PaNDalum
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01/20/22 09:55 PM ET
There seems to be a lot of thought of the P5 breaking from the NCAA
-- Vienna_Hokie
Jan 21, 2022 at 01:07 PM ET
Vienna_Hokie
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01/21/22 01:07 PM ET
If the P5s just want it to be either football-only or football and
-- VTHokie2000
Jan 21, 2022 at 01:48 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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01/21/22 01:48 PM ET
Spot on, this summer I was doubtful this could happen, but Phillips has
-- Stech
Jan 21, 2022 at 07:52 AM ET
Stech
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01/21/22 07:52 AM ET
Why would $85 million not be possible for ND as an independent?
-- Truthahn
Jan 21, 2022 at 01:09 PM ET
Truthahn
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01/21/22 01:09 PM ET
NBC pays ND around 22-23 million a year
-- TerryD
Jan 21, 2022 at 01:40 PM ET
TerryD
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01/21/22 01:40 PM ET
Honestly, not sure if this has sarcasm or not
-- RTFC
Jan 22, 2022 at 12:39 AM ET
RTFC
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01/22/22 12:39 AM ET
He asked me why ND would not just stay independent in a P2 era
-- TerryD
Jan 22, 2022 at 09:34 AM ET
TerryD
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01/22/22 09:34 AM ET
Agree, if ND chooses to accept a pay the players model
-- RTFC
Jan 22, 2022 at 09:58 AM ET
RTFC
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01/22/22 09:58 AM ET
Doesn’t the acc pay VT 38 million?
-- Truthahn
Jan 21, 2022 at 09:14 PM ET
Truthahn
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01/21/22 09:14 PM ET
Yeah, I see the writing on the wall.
-- goldendomer
Jan 21, 2022 at 01:25 AM ET
goldendomer
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01/21/22 01:25 AM ET
A comment and question about Notre Dame tradition for you and @TerryD
-- Maroon Baboon
Jan 21, 2022 at 11:16 AM ET
Maroon Baboon
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01/21/22 11:16 AM ET
It is beyond a tradition at ND. Independence is what made us the brand we
-- goldendomer
Jan 21, 2022 at 12:58 PM ET
goldendomer
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01/21/22 12:58 PM ET
It is not a "tradition". It is Notre Dame's very identity
-- TerryD
Jan 21, 2022 at 02:32 PM ET
TerryD
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01/21/22 02:32 PM ET
I think ND threw the origin story away with the partial ACC membership
-- Maroon Baboon
Jan 21, 2022 at 03:45 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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01/21/22 03:45 PM ET
I didn't say it was noble. I just said it was unique, based on history**
-- TerryD
Jan 21, 2022 at 11:33 PM ET
TerryD
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01/21/22 11:33 PM ET
Actually it is partial independence, too. Independish!**
-- Truthahn
Jan 21, 2022 at 09:21 PM ET
Truthahn
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01/21/22 09:21 PM ET
I like the ACC better, and loathe the idea of the Big ten
-- goldendomer
Jan 21, 2022 at 03:58 PM ET
goldendomer
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01/21/22 03:58 PM ET
One of the main reasons ND independence worked
-- RTFC
Jan 21, 2022 at 02:01 PM ET
RTFC
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01/21/22 02:01 PM ET
How did ND attract all of those eastern Catholics in the first place?
-- TerryD
Jan 21, 2022 at 02:29 PM ET
TerryD
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01/21/22 02:29 PM ET
ND had a bunch of Catholic fans wayway before that
-- TerryD
Jan 21, 2022 at 05:42 PM ET
TerryD
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01/21/22 05:42 PM ET
The reply was not contending....
-- 2hhoop3
Jan 21, 2022 at 06:35 PM ET
2hhoop3
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01/21/22 06:35 PM ET
Nope. I didn't say traveling to play teams wasn't a good idea,
-- RTFC
Jan 21, 2022 at 03:18 PM ET
RTFC
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01/21/22 03:18 PM ET
ND fans are the only ones who count on this subject
-- TerryD
Jan 21, 2022 at 05:51 PM ET
TerryD
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01/21/22 05:51 PM ET
When they want special rules for a team
-- RTFC
Jan 22, 2022 at 01:09 AM ET
RTFC
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01/22/22 01:09 AM ET
Don't forget the convicts vs Catholics games
-- EDGEMAN
Jan 21, 2022 at 12:09 PM ET
EDGEMAN
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01/21/22 12:09 PM ET
Excellent post. In that scenario ND will end up somewhere, or
-- RTFC
Jan 20, 2022 at 11:35 PM ET
RTFC
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01/20/22 11:35 PM ET
The re-org may be dysfunctional simply because the schools
-- VTHokie2000
Jan 20, 2022 at 10:04 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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01/20/22 10:04 PM ET
Frankly, some of the non-rev conferences need realigning too.
-- Maroon Baboon
Jan 21, 2022 at 11:27 AM ET
Maroon Baboon
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01/21/22 11:27 AM ET
Oh I agree that some non-revenue sports shouldn't be in a major conference
-- VTHokie2000
Jan 21, 2022 at 11:45 AM ET
VTHokie2000
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01/21/22 11:45 AM ET
If the new association is a for-profit one, then what does that mean for
-- VTHokie2000
Jan 20, 2022 at 09:41 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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01/20/22 09:41 PM ET
I didn't notice any time deadlines in the article - this can drag out
-- PadrosWindup
Jan 20, 2022 at 09:17 PM ET
PadrosWindup
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01/20/22 09:17 PM ET
August: "the committee’s real work begins after the convention; a spring
-- Stech
Jan 21, 2022 at 12:37 PM ET
Stech
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01/21/22 12:37 PM ET
I could see this dragging out to where the current contract has expired
-- VTHokie2000
Jan 20, 2022 at 09:43 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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01/20/22 09:43 PM ET
Given the money to be made on a new playoffs I don't see that happening.
-- Truthahn
Jan 21, 2022 at 01:19 PM ET
Truthahn
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01/21/22 01:19 PM ET
You are forgetting that a new contract or even a NCAA solution may not
-- VTHokie2000
Jan 21, 2022 at 01:37 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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01/21/22 01:37 PM ET
Yes, a very small risk of the plus one ncaa game.
-- Truthahn
Jan 21, 2022 at 09:29 PM ET
Truthahn
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01/21/22 09:29 PM ET
Under the current DI structure, a P5 Playoff would violate antitrust laws.
-- VTHokie2000
Jan 22, 2022 at 09:50 AM ET
VTHokie2000
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01/22/22 09:50 AM ET
I'd prefer to fall back to the pre-BCS era honestly.
-- Maroon Baboon
Jan 20, 2022 at 10:09 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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01/20/22 10:09 PM ET
Me too, but I could see the schools (or the bowls) decide to
-- VTHokie2000
Jan 20, 2022 at 10:14 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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01/20/22 10:14 PM ET
That mindset works for football, basketball, and a few of the non-revenue
-- VTHokie2000
Jan 20, 2022 at 07:38 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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01/20/22 07:38 PM ET
Jim Phillips ACC Commish is one of two P5's on the restructuring committee.
-- Stech
Jan 20, 2022 at 07:13 PM ET
Stech
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01/20/22 07:13 PM ET
Let winning be the standard. Bring on relegation and promotion.
-- Maroon Baboon
Jan 20, 2022 at 06:05 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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01/20/22 06:05 PM ET