I am constantly amused by the FSU to the B1G rumors
Seems like every day on Twitter I see some rumor about how Florida State is going to manipulate itself out of the ACC and leap into the loving arms of the Big Ten, which purportedly otherwise has no plan to expand anytime soon unless Notre Dame became available. There are so many things wrong with this idea that it makes all the sparring between the Big 12 and Pac 12-2 folks look sensible.
FSU in the Big Ten is like eating catfish and grits in Chicago. It just doesn't seem logical. Granted, the B1G has thrown geography and adjacent states out the window with the addition of USC and UCLA, but that's for the benefit of gaining a foothold in Los Angeles which, last time I checked, has never been confused with Tallahassee. Geographically, it makes far more sense for the B1G to pick up a couple more Pac 12-2 schools than to dip into Florida, which is already full of B1G alums and transplants from the midwestern tundra. People are already watching BTN in Florida, I would imagine. I would argue that the B1G is better served to grab schools from Virginia and/or North Carolina. And the USC/UCLA strategy would seemingly put Georgia Tech in play ahead of a school in the Florida panhandle.
FSU is a respectable school but it is nothing particularly special where academics are concerned. As I see it, FSU academics fall short of UNC, UVa, VT, NCSU, Duke, GT and Pitt just among those ACC schools that have at least a remote shot at getting into the B1G. To me, FSU academics are clearly superior only to Louisville among ACC schools and about on par with Clemson. I've never met a doctor or engineer or scientist who went to FSU.
FSU would say it has a bigger brand and draws better television audiences than most. That may be true, but is anyone really going to tune in to see FSU play schools from the north with whom it has no relationship? Putting aside games played against Maryland while the Terps were in the ACC, FSU has never played any B1G school more than Nebraska, and those 8 games are all bowl games or games played in Lincoln back when Bobby Bowden went barnstorming to building the FSU program. FSU has played the Buckeyes, Nittany Lions and Wolverines three times apiece, and never in Tallahassee. People tune in to watch compelling matchups. I just don't see how FSU can contribute to compelling matchups when it has no rivalries with existing B1G schools. It's fine to say that FSU-Ohio State would make good television, but Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State and USC can only play so many rivalry games and made-for-TV games. I don't see people getting fired up to see FSU-Wisconsin or FSU-Iowa, even if those would be good games.
The Twitter talk is that FSU is angling to get out of the ACC sooner rather than later. How that could happen is beyond my conception. Some say ESPN and Disney would help FSU so as to get a piece of the Big Ten schedule. But that means devaluing their investment in the ACC Network just when it is getting started. Some say the Florida government will facilitate a move. This is the same Florida government that is currently in a huge political fistfight with Disney.
I have nothing against FSU. But the more I read about FSU-to-the-B1G, the more I think FSU folks have an ego like Texas and the clout of A&M (except that since Jimbo left FSU for A&M, it might be exaggerating to equate FSU to A&M).
Posted: 04/18/2023 at 03:52 PM ET
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I am constantly amused by the FSU to the B1G rumors
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-- Tailgate Guru
Apr 18, 2023 at 03:52 PM ET
Tailgate Guru
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04/18/23 03:52 PM ET
Maybe the breakaway 8 will work as an independent group?
-- Truthahn
May 01, 2023 at 02:06 PM ET
Truthahn
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05/01/23 02:06 PM ET
Stranger things have happened...
-- 33laszlo99
Apr 19, 2023 at 10:48 AM ET
33laszlo99
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04/19/23 10:48 AM ET
I just question why the B1G needs to plant a flag in Florida
-- Tailgate Guru
Apr 20, 2023 at 11:28 AM ET
Tailgate Guru
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04/20/23 11:28 AM ET
It is simply a question of money. Florida can deliver it.
-- 33laszlo99
Apr 20, 2023 at 05:41 PM ET
33laszlo99
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04/20/23 05:41 PM ET
How long can that discrepancy in rates last?
-- Tailgate Guru
Apr 21, 2023 at 01:32 PM ET
Tailgate Guru
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04/21/23 01:32 PM ET
WRT rivalries. We have to look at them in context. And conference
-- Maroon Baboon
Apr 20, 2023 at 03:00 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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04/20/23 03:00 PM ET
I'm beginning to think that rivalries are a message board topic that means
-- 33laszlo99
Apr 20, 2023 at 06:00 PM ET
33laszlo99
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04/20/23 06:00 PM ET
Indeed. "Does this addition make us more money?" is all that really matters
-- Pylons
Apr 21, 2023 at 03:10 PM ET
Pylons
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04/21/23 03:10 PM ET
Pretty soon conferences are going to get good at removing their deadwood.
-- Truthahn
Apr 24, 2023 at 12:14 PM ET
Truthahn
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04/24/23 12:14 PM ET
Unfortunately, if this isn't nipped in the bud with expanded playoffs, you
-- Big12 guy
Apr 24, 2023 at 02:47 PM ET
Big12 guy
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04/24/23 02:47 PM ET
If a conference only has a little deadwood, it helps the middle teams get..
-- EDGEMAN
Apr 25, 2023 at 09:22 AM ET
EDGEMAN
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04/25/23 09:22 AM ET
I've always felt that were ND to join the ACC ...
-- Truthahn
Apr 26, 2023 at 02:22 PM ET
Truthahn
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04/26/23 02:22 PM ET
Yes, but we are looking at a break away league - Bowls will no longer
-- Big12 guy
Apr 25, 2023 at 03:53 PM ET
Big12 guy
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04/25/23 03:53 PM ET
How crass! There must be more...**
-- 33laszlo99
Apr 20, 2023 at 06:40 PM ET
33laszlo99
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04/20/23 06:40 PM ET
They need to plant a flag.....
-- 2hhoop3
Apr 20, 2023 at 11:53 AM ET
2hhoop3
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04/20/23 11:53 AM ET
With USC/UCLA to the B1G, their contiguous states requirement...
-- Old Line Hokie
Apr 19, 2023 at 01:32 PM ET
Old Line Hokie
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04/19/23 01:32 PM ET
Technically when they added Nebraska, their AAU requirement was thrown...
-- EDGEMAN
Apr 19, 2023 at 02:14 PM ET
EDGEMAN
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04/19/23 02:14 PM ET
The funny thing is, when they added UMCP and Rutgers...
-- Old Line Hokie
Apr 19, 2023 at 07:36 PM ET
Old Line Hokie
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04/19/23 07:36 PM ET
I'm sure they still weigh that in their decision, but it's no longer....
-- EDGEMAN
Apr 20, 2023 at 08:31 AM ET
EDGEMAN
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04/20/23 08:31 AM ET
Research grants should be about as important to athletic conference
-- Pylons
Apr 22, 2023 at 09:24 AM ET
Pylons
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04/22/23 09:24 AM ET
Then You Must Use that Same Logic On the B1G Adding Just AAU Members In the
-- WarHog38
Apr 22, 2023 at 01:02 PM ET
WarHog38
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04/22/23 01:02 PM ET
You Would Have Got Lots of Laughs
-- WarHog38
Apr 22, 2023 at 01:36 PM ET
WarHog38
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04/22/23 01:36 PM ET
Yep, you're doing a bang-up job making it so.**
-- Pylons
Apr 22, 2023 at 03:04 PM ET
Pylons
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04/22/23 03:04 PM ET
Well, I have over a decade of experience in academia, in both
-- Pylons
Apr 22, 2023 at 10:50 PM ET
Pylons
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04/22/23 10:50 PM ET
I Didn' Say Anything About Research Money Sharing in the Post
-- NovaHokie27
Apr 23, 2023 at 03:38 AM ET
NovaHokie27
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04/23/23 03:38 AM ET
I always thought the CIC was very misleading about what it really was
-- Pylons
Apr 28, 2023 at 11:46 AM ET
Pylons
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04/28/23 11:46 AM ET
Did you "politely bow out" as one user and jump back in as another? lol
-- Pylons
Apr 23, 2023 at 09:37 AM ET
Pylons
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04/23/23 09:37 AM ET
Where do you see ND and Miami ending up?**
-- Millpoint
Apr 20, 2023 at 05:06 PM ET
Millpoint
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04/20/23 05:06 PM ET
ND has Had a Landing Spot in the B1G Probably for 30 Years
-- WarHog38
Apr 20, 2023 at 05:34 PM ET
WarHog38
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04/20/23 05:34 PM ET
i think this is a very good post
-- Vippie1
Apr 19, 2023 at 12:43 PM ET
Vippie1
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04/19/23 12:43 PM ET
I'm on the fence about Dook vs NCSU
-- EDGEMAN
Apr 19, 2023 at 04:23 PM ET
EDGEMAN
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04/19/23 04:23 PM ET
I see Duke and Wake going to the Big East.
-- hokieball
Apr 20, 2023 at 01:38 PM ET
hokieball
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04/20/23 01:38 PM ET
Very strong, as in they are both part of the
-- RTFC
Apr 25, 2023 at 01:00 PM ET
RTFC
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04/25/23 01:00 PM ET
They won't challenge the GOR without 100% guarantee of a P2 invite
-- ren_hoek
Apr 19, 2023 at 12:00 PM ET
ren_hoek
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04/19/23 12:00 PM ET
If I was the B1G, I'd be going after FSU and Clemson.
-- Maroon Baboon
Apr 19, 2023 at 04:16 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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04/19/23 04:16 PM ET
It's about money, and when the football part catches up
-- Big12 guy
Apr 19, 2023 at 07:40 PM ET
Big12 guy
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04/19/23 07:40 PM ET
Word on the street is Miami's "mega doner" is in serious financial trouble
-- EDGEMAN
Apr 19, 2023 at 11:53 AM ET
EDGEMAN
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04/19/23 11:53 AM ET
FSU has always been in a weird place academically
-- I85Hokie
Apr 19, 2023 at 08:25 AM ET
I85Hokie
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04/19/23 08:25 AM ET
They are Saying Tony Petitti Will Not Be on the Job Until May 15
-- WarHog38
Apr 18, 2023 at 10:11 PM ET
WarHog38
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04/18/23 10:11 PM ET
Tallahassee vs Disney part deux**
-- OrlandoHokie
Apr 18, 2023 at 07:37 PM ET
OrlandoHokie
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04/18/23 07:37 PM ET
My former dentist and church organist went to FSU
-- Victor Tango
Apr 18, 2023 at 04:33 PM ET
Victor Tango
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04/18/23 04:33 PM ET
The Tallahassee-Disney fight as nothing to do with FSU realignment.
-- Maroon Baboon
Apr 19, 2023 at 04:37 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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04/19/23 04:37 PM ET
I assume you know the Disney is about to be b..slapped by the State of Fl.
-- cricket77
Apr 18, 2023 at 07:37 PM ET
cricket77
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04/18/23 07:37 PM ET
LOL, don't think they are the ones who are going to get B slapped **
-- VaTechHokiesACC
Apr 23, 2023 at 04:49 AM ET
VaTechHokiesACC
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04/23/23 04:49 AM ET
the state is 100% insane for starting a war with them.
-- reestuart
Apr 20, 2023 at 02:15 PM ET
reestuart
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04/20/23 02:15 PM ET
Disney is the insane one.
-- tarheelblue
Apr 22, 2023 at 09:02 PM ET
tarheelblue
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04/22/23 09:02 PM ET
Biggest employer in the state is as important as anything else that
-- reestuart
Apr 24, 2023 at 07:00 AM ET
reestuart
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04/24/23 07:00 AM ET
Good. Soon they will pay even more.
-- Truthahn
May 01, 2023 at 01:32 PM ET
Truthahn
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05/01/23 01:32 PM ET
Disney can't afford to leave. And Florida can't afford to have them leave.**
-- Maroon Baboon
Apr 19, 2023 at 05:11 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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04/19/23 05:11 PM ET
Its physically impossible for Disney to move.
-- Truthahn
Apr 20, 2023 at 04:28 PM ET
Truthahn
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04/20/23 04:28 PM ET
LOL Yea, sure. I just know Disney's lawyers are quivering
-- ancient alien 2018
Apr 19, 2023 at 05:03 PM ET
ancient alien 2018
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04/19/23 05:03 PM ET
I highly doubt that will happen. Lol. **
-- Hokie_CLT
Apr 19, 2023 at 09:48 AM ET
Hokie_CLT
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04/19/23 09:48 AM ET
Disney is Very Woke,You see what Happened to Bud Light When they Publicly
-- WarHog38
Apr 18, 2023 at 08:41 PM ET
WarHog38
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04/18/23 08:41 PM ET
Disney and Anheuser Busch will be just fine **
-- VaTechHokiesACC
Apr 23, 2023 at 04:50 AM ET
VaTechHokiesACC
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04/23/23 04:50 AM ET
Stock market value and actual value
-- RVAHokie05
Apr 20, 2023 at 02:18 PM ET
RVAHokie05
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04/20/23 02:18 PM ET
Tell That to the Stockholders **
-- WarHog38
Apr 20, 2023 at 08:17 PM ET
WarHog38
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04/20/23 08:17 PM ET
If shareholders are risk-averse then they shouldn’t be putting their money
-- RVAHokie05
Apr 21, 2023 at 09:38 AM ET
RVAHokie05
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04/21/23 09:38 AM ET
A Stock Price Falls Due to a Sell Off
-- WarHog38
Apr 21, 2023 at 11:54 AM ET
WarHog38
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04/21/23 11:54 AM ET