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VTHokie2000
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Gonzaga does have a national brand in basketball, so it does make cents

(read as sense) for the Big XII to pursue them. Also, I get why the Big XII would be interested in UConn for basketball too. I'm not sure UConn is willing to separate the two unless the NCAA reorg allows the schools to compete at various division levels depending on the sport. If that happens, then schools like UConn could compete at a lower division level for football (think the new DII would be equal to what DI-FCS is now) and DI for basketball. Thus allowing the Big XII to add UConn for basketball and not for football. UConn might be open to that scenario because there would be new requirements for a school to compete at the DI level in football because it couldn't financially meet the new requirements (i.e. stadium size of 60k, paying the football players a fixed salary in lieu of athletic scholarships, or any other new requirements the schools come up with to define the various division levels). It might even open the door for the Big XII to lure Georgetown or Villanova away from the Big East. As far as the ACC goes, I think most people agree the ACC is a dead man walking. It is just a question of whether the execution date occurs on June 30, 2036 or sooner. I do think it is possible the ACC could exist in some form or another. If it does still exist on July 1, 2036, then it will be in the same boat as the Big East (aka the SS Former Power Conference). It is why I think the NCAA reorg could still be a wild card in all of this chaos. Depending on how the dust settles for that could influence what directions the conferences go in. Even if the Big Ten and SEC expand to 30 or 40 members, you could see the 2 conferences break up into regional divisions or smaller regional conferences because the large super conferences were serving as a means to an end to make it easier to break away from the DI schools without ruffling too many political feathers. The new DI could be made up of essentially Big Ten and SEC schools even if it took the form of 6-10 regional conferences. While the new DII could be the Big XII and other former DI conferences. The new DIII could be the smaller former DI conferences and DII conferences. And so on. I think most people agree that something has to give concerning collegiate athletics. I do believe the decisions made in the reorg will be on par to the decision the schools made in 1971 when the schools decision to create the three division levels in the NCAA. It is also the opportune time to make the DI requirements more strict to reduce the number of schools who financially benefit from the two DI revenue sports without putting the health of the non-revenue sports at risk.
Posted: 10/12/2023 at 01:48 PM ET
(In response to this post by Big12 guy)

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Big 12 Has Resumed High-Level Conference Realignment Talks With Gonzaga.
WBGV 10/09/23 12:23 PM ET
Why? All th money right now is in 🏈. The NCAA 🏀 $$ mainly to other sports
Stech 10/09/23 06:43 PM ET
If you only pay for basketball it makes complete sense
VT ChemE 1986 10/10/23 11:03 AM ET
🏀money is so much less than 🏈, I don’t see it unless they expand NCAA
Stech 10/10/23 01:58 PM ET
I assume The CFP group (P4, or whatever) eventually wants a CBP, too.
Truthahn 10/16/23 03:01 PM ET
So far. The money for football has been spent. The consolidation of the
Big12 guy 10/10/23 04:01 PM ET
I think Fox is behind this. They want more attractive MBB programs for
33laszlo99 10/09/23 11:47 PM ET
Fox basketball is way behind ESPN basketball, so that makes some sense.
Stech 10/10/23 02:03 PM ET
You are right, Stech. Hoops will not earn big bucks until they are free
33laszlo99 10/10/23 03:29 PM ET
agree, what is the plan vision????
Mercury 10/09/23 07:40 PM ET
The B12 will never be a top football conference, the blue bloods and brands
Big12 guy 10/09/23 07:57 PM ET
Adding more teams to the B12 just decreases each schools annual amount
hoodat 10/09/23 05:22 PM ET
Don't think their goal is to increase school pay-outs
VT ChemE 1986 10/09/23 06:21 PM ET
Hope they revisit UConn as well. A basketball juggernaut. **
Big12 guy 10/09/23 03:39 PM ET
I hope we get UConn. UConn except FB would be great in the ACC.
Truthahn 10/10/23 01:04 PM ET
They have been waiting for an invite for a while. If the ACC passes.......**
Big12 guy 10/10/23 01:39 PM ET
We ignored a bunch of good conference realignment moves recently.
Truthahn 10/10/23 08:04 PM ET
Given that Gonzaga doesn't sponsor football, it may not make sense for the
VTHokie2000 10/09/23 08:05 PM ET
I don't care. the playbook has been thrown out. it's about money and
Big12 guy 10/09/23 08:53 PM ET
Future conference schedules has nothing to do with hanging onto the past
VTHokie2000 10/09/23 10:47 PM ET
The only football schools left are in the ACC, and I don't see that
Big12 guy 10/10/23 06:53 AM ET
Once a conference expands to 16 members, then it will not want to create
VTHokie2000 10/10/23 01:43 PM ET
I think the B12 is done with football. There are no schools that bring
Big12 guy 10/10/23 02:26 PM ET
It doesn't matter if a school brings more money for basketball or not
VTHokie2000 10/12/23 08:56 AM ET
UConn may be worth it. If the basketball media contracts are seperated.
Big12 guy 10/12/23 09:09 AM ET
It is sad that, were UConn to join the ACC, they would be good in 5 years.
Truthahn 10/16/23 03:08 PM ET
It may not matter if the contracts are separated or not because the impasse
VTHokie2000 10/12/23 09:48 AM ET
Washington State would be a good travel partner for Gonzaga. UConn
Big12 guy 10/12/23 10:24 AM ET
Wazzou would be a good travel partner for Gonzaga. The same argument
VTHokie2000 10/12/23 11:56 AM ET
Sorry, B12guy, I thought you were talking Wazzu and Oregon St.**
33laszlo99 10/14/23 12:16 AM ET
Pullman and Corvalis are over 400 miles apart. They make good travel
33laszlo99 10/13/23 11:27 PM ET
Even though we were talking about Gonzaga and Wazzu as travel partners, it
VTHokie2000 10/14/23 08:50 PM ET
In this day and age, football with P conferences will never be off
Big12 guy 10/12/23 12:19 PM ET
Gonzaga does have a national brand in basketball, so it does make cents
VTHokie2000 10/12/23 01:48 PM ET
For the record, I don't think Uconn would separate their football, nor
Big12 guy 10/12/23 03:02 PM ET
You can also throw out your view on P5/G5 with the bathwater too because
VTHokie2000 10/12/23 03:23 PM ET
Not there yet. i see a P2 and a P1. The P2 will
Big12 guy 10/12/23 04:05 PM ET
Basketball may very well be able to generate enough money to appease the
VTHokie2000 10/12/23 05:28 PM ET
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WBGV 10/09/23 12:30 PM ET
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WBGV 10/09/23 12:58 PM ET
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WBGV 10/09/23 01:26 PM ET