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VTHokie2000
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Once a conference expands to 16 members, then it will not want to create

additional problems for itself because it will have to deal with enough problems trying to appease all those members. Remember conference scheduling for football is very limited compared to the other sports (including basketball). If a conference wants to expand beyond 16 football members, then it will only do so in even numbers because even numbers are much more schedule friendly in a conference that large. Whereas having odd number of members can still work for basketball and the other non-football sports. Remember at one point the Big East had 19 non-football members prior to the basketball-football divorce. It may help explain why the Big XII has resumed talks with Gonzaga, but we are not seeing any reports about the Big XII having any discussions with UConn because as you say the conference has not identified anyone to be UConn's partner even as a football-only member. If the Big XII does have any future discussions with UConn, then you should see the conference have similar discussions with at least 1 other football school (i.e. Temple, USF, Memphis, etc.) to maintain an even number of football schools. The exception should be if the conference starts to lose football members and UConn is added to fill 1 of those slots.
Posted: 10/10/2023 at 01:43 PM ET
(In response to this post by Big12 guy)

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Big 12 Has Resumed High-Level Conference Realignment Talks With Gonzaga.
WBGV 10/09/23 12:23 PM ET
Why? All th money right now is in 🏈. The NCAA 🏀 $$ mainly to other sports
Stech 10/09/23 06:43 PM ET
If you only pay for basketball it makes complete sense
VT ChemE 1986 10/10/23 11:03 AM ET
🏀money is so much less than 🏈, I don’t see it unless they expand NCAA
Stech 10/10/23 01:58 PM ET
I assume The CFP group (P4, or whatever) eventually wants a CBP, too.
Truthahn 10/16/23 03:01 PM ET
So far. The money for football has been spent. The consolidation of the
Big12 guy 10/10/23 04:01 PM ET
I think Fox is behind this. They want more attractive MBB programs for
33laszlo99 10/09/23 11:47 PM ET
Fox basketball is way behind ESPN basketball, so that makes some sense.
Stech 10/10/23 02:03 PM ET
You are right, Stech. Hoops will not earn big bucks until they are free
33laszlo99 10/10/23 03:29 PM ET
agree, what is the plan vision????
Mercury 10/09/23 07:40 PM ET
The B12 will never be a top football conference, the blue bloods and brands
Big12 guy 10/09/23 07:57 PM ET
Adding more teams to the B12 just decreases each schools annual amount
hoodat 10/09/23 05:22 PM ET
Don't think their goal is to increase school pay-outs
VT ChemE 1986 10/09/23 06:21 PM ET
Hope they revisit UConn as well. A basketball juggernaut. **
Big12 guy 10/09/23 03:39 PM ET
I hope we get UConn. UConn except FB would be great in the ACC.
Truthahn 10/10/23 01:04 PM ET
They have been waiting for an invite for a while. If the ACC passes.......**
Big12 guy 10/10/23 01:39 PM ET
We ignored a bunch of good conference realignment moves recently.
Truthahn 10/10/23 08:04 PM ET
Given that Gonzaga doesn't sponsor football, it may not make sense for the
VTHokie2000 10/09/23 08:05 PM ET
I don't care. the playbook has been thrown out. it's about money and
Big12 guy 10/09/23 08:53 PM ET
Future conference schedules has nothing to do with hanging onto the past
VTHokie2000 10/09/23 10:47 PM ET
The only football schools left are in the ACC, and I don't see that
Big12 guy 10/10/23 06:53 AM ET
Once a conference expands to 16 members, then it will not want to create
VTHokie2000 10/10/23 01:43 PM ET
I think the B12 is done with football. There are no schools that bring
Big12 guy 10/10/23 02:26 PM ET
It doesn't matter if a school brings more money for basketball or not
VTHokie2000 10/12/23 08:56 AM ET
UConn may be worth it. If the basketball media contracts are seperated.
Big12 guy 10/12/23 09:09 AM ET
It is sad that, were UConn to join the ACC, they would be good in 5 years.
Truthahn 10/16/23 03:08 PM ET
It may not matter if the contracts are separated or not because the impasse
VTHokie2000 10/12/23 09:48 AM ET
Washington State would be a good travel partner for Gonzaga. UConn
Big12 guy 10/12/23 10:24 AM ET
Wazzou would be a good travel partner for Gonzaga. The same argument
VTHokie2000 10/12/23 11:56 AM ET
Sorry, B12guy, I thought you were talking Wazzu and Oregon St.**
33laszlo99 10/14/23 12:16 AM ET
Pullman and Corvalis are over 400 miles apart. They make good travel
33laszlo99 10/13/23 11:27 PM ET
Even though we were talking about Gonzaga and Wazzu as travel partners, it
VTHokie2000 10/14/23 08:50 PM ET
In this day and age, football with P conferences will never be off
Big12 guy 10/12/23 12:19 PM ET
Gonzaga does have a national brand in basketball, so it does make cents
VTHokie2000 10/12/23 01:48 PM ET
For the record, I don't think Uconn would separate their football, nor
Big12 guy 10/12/23 03:02 PM ET
You can also throw out your view on P5/G5 with the bathwater too because
VTHokie2000 10/12/23 03:23 PM ET
Not there yet. i see a P2 and a P1. The P2 will
Big12 guy 10/12/23 04:05 PM ET
Basketball may very well be able to generate enough money to appease the
VTHokie2000 10/12/23 05:28 PM ET
Utah's President Helped Doom the Pac 12
WBGV 10/09/23 12:30 PM ET
Talks between the Big 12 Conference and Gonzaga have reportedly resumed
WBGV 10/09/23 12:58 PM ET
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WBGV 10/09/23 01:26 PM ET