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VTHokie2000
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You can also throw out your view on P5/G5 with the bathwater too because

it doesn't exist anymore. We essentially live in a P2 world because the Big Ten and SEC will eventually want to do their own thing and leave everyone else behind including the Big XII. If other conferences want a seat at the table, then doing division level membership by sport may be the only way to salvage a seat because the Big Ten and SEC will want to protect their non-revenue sports too particularly the sports where the majority of participating schools are not from a power conference.
Posted: 10/12/2023 at 03:23 PM ET
(In response to this post by Big12 guy)

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Big 12 Has Resumed High-Level Conference Realignment Talks With Gonzaga.
WBGV 10/09/23 12:23 PM ET
Why? All th money right now is in 🏈. The NCAA 🏀 $$ mainly to other sports
Stech 10/09/23 06:43 PM ET
If you only pay for basketball it makes complete sense
VT ChemE 1986 10/10/23 11:03 AM ET
🏀money is so much less than 🏈, I don’t see it unless they expand NCAA
Stech 10/10/23 01:58 PM ET
I assume The CFP group (P4, or whatever) eventually wants a CBP, too.
Truthahn 10/16/23 03:01 PM ET
So far. The money for football has been spent. The consolidation of the
Big12 guy 10/10/23 04:01 PM ET
I think Fox is behind this. They want more attractive MBB programs for
33laszlo99 10/09/23 11:47 PM ET
Fox basketball is way behind ESPN basketball, so that makes some sense.
Stech 10/10/23 02:03 PM ET
You are right, Stech. Hoops will not earn big bucks until they are free
33laszlo99 10/10/23 03:29 PM ET
agree, what is the plan vision????
Mercury 10/09/23 07:40 PM ET
The B12 will never be a top football conference, the blue bloods and brands
Big12 guy 10/09/23 07:57 PM ET
Adding more teams to the B12 just decreases each schools annual amount
hoodat 10/09/23 05:22 PM ET
Don't think their goal is to increase school pay-outs
VT ChemE 1986 10/09/23 06:21 PM ET
Hope they revisit UConn as well. A basketball juggernaut. **
Big12 guy 10/09/23 03:39 PM ET
I hope we get UConn. UConn except FB would be great in the ACC.
Truthahn 10/10/23 01:04 PM ET
They have been waiting for an invite for a while. If the ACC passes.......**
Big12 guy 10/10/23 01:39 PM ET
We ignored a bunch of good conference realignment moves recently.
Truthahn 10/10/23 08:04 PM ET
Given that Gonzaga doesn't sponsor football, it may not make sense for the
VTHokie2000 10/09/23 08:05 PM ET
I don't care. the playbook has been thrown out. it's about money and
Big12 guy 10/09/23 08:53 PM ET
Future conference schedules has nothing to do with hanging onto the past
VTHokie2000 10/09/23 10:47 PM ET
The only football schools left are in the ACC, and I don't see that
Big12 guy 10/10/23 06:53 AM ET
Once a conference expands to 16 members, then it will not want to create
VTHokie2000 10/10/23 01:43 PM ET
I think the B12 is done with football. There are no schools that bring
Big12 guy 10/10/23 02:26 PM ET
It doesn't matter if a school brings more money for basketball or not
VTHokie2000 10/12/23 08:56 AM ET
UConn may be worth it. If the basketball media contracts are seperated.
Big12 guy 10/12/23 09:09 AM ET
It is sad that, were UConn to join the ACC, they would be good in 5 years.
Truthahn 10/16/23 03:08 PM ET
It may not matter if the contracts are separated or not because the impasse
VTHokie2000 10/12/23 09:48 AM ET
Washington State would be a good travel partner for Gonzaga. UConn
Big12 guy 10/12/23 10:24 AM ET
Wazzou would be a good travel partner for Gonzaga. The same argument
VTHokie2000 10/12/23 11:56 AM ET
Sorry, B12guy, I thought you were talking Wazzu and Oregon St.**
33laszlo99 10/14/23 12:16 AM ET
Pullman and Corvalis are over 400 miles apart. They make good travel
33laszlo99 10/13/23 11:27 PM ET
Even though we were talking about Gonzaga and Wazzu as travel partners, it
VTHokie2000 10/14/23 08:50 PM ET
In this day and age, football with P conferences will never be off
Big12 guy 10/12/23 12:19 PM ET
Gonzaga does have a national brand in basketball, so it does make cents
VTHokie2000 10/12/23 01:48 PM ET
For the record, I don't think Uconn would separate their football, nor
Big12 guy 10/12/23 03:02 PM ET
You can also throw out your view on P5/G5 with the bathwater too because
VTHokie2000 10/12/23 03:23 PM ET
Not there yet. i see a P2 and a P1. The P2 will
Big12 guy 10/12/23 04:05 PM ET
Basketball may very well be able to generate enough money to appease the
VTHokie2000 10/12/23 05:28 PM ET
Utah's President Helped Doom the Pac 12
WBGV 10/09/23 12:30 PM ET
Talks between the Big 12 Conference and Gonzaga have reportedly resumed
WBGV 10/09/23 12:58 PM ET
Army-American Athletic Conference Talks Continue
WBGV 10/09/23 01:26 PM ET