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In this day and age, football with P conferences will never be off

the table. Adding basketball schools may or may not be accretive, but what I do know is that there are no football brands available to move the needle. Gonzaga, at least for now, is a very powerful national brand, and as you said, an uneven number of football programs if UConn is ever invited is untenable. So ya, looking at the non revs, and their travel schedule, WSU would make sense if UConn is invited. UCF could very much use a travel partner, but if you look as USF's basketball history, they don't fit the mold if basketball is where the B12 is going. I don't have an answer for UCF's travel partner without looking at the ACC, but let's just say that is off the board, especially on this board. FSU, with their academics would be a good fit in the ACC should they lose their Florida schools - but that is a different discussion. UConn from my perspective is a no brainer for the ACC, but you guys are still holding out for a power football conference in the mold of the Big 10 or SEC. I just don't see that in the cards unless ND joins, and that has been litigated to death on this board. The ACC before FSU and the Big East teams, was a basketball conference hands down. If they lose that identity, and the top football programs, it will be very difficult for them to compete after 2036 (or when that dike breaks).
Posted: 10/12/2023 at 12:19 PM ET
(In response to this post by VTHokie2000)

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Big 12 Has Resumed High-Level Conference Realignment Talks With Gonzaga.
WBGV 10/09/23 12:23 PM ET
Why? All th money right now is in 🏈. The NCAA 🏀 $$ mainly to other sports
Stech 10/09/23 06:43 PM ET
If you only pay for basketball it makes complete sense
VT ChemE 1986 10/10/23 11:03 AM ET
🏀money is so much less than 🏈, I don’t see it unless they expand NCAA
Stech 10/10/23 01:58 PM ET
I assume The CFP group (P4, or whatever) eventually wants a CBP, too.
Truthahn 10/16/23 03:01 PM ET
So far. The money for football has been spent. The consolidation of the
Big12 guy 10/10/23 04:01 PM ET
I think Fox is behind this. They want more attractive MBB programs for
33laszlo99 10/09/23 11:47 PM ET
Fox basketball is way behind ESPN basketball, so that makes some sense.
Stech 10/10/23 02:03 PM ET
You are right, Stech. Hoops will not earn big bucks until they are free
33laszlo99 10/10/23 03:29 PM ET
agree, what is the plan vision????
Mercury 10/09/23 07:40 PM ET
The B12 will never be a top football conference, the blue bloods and brands
Big12 guy 10/09/23 07:57 PM ET
Adding more teams to the B12 just decreases each schools annual amount
hoodat 10/09/23 05:22 PM ET
Don't think their goal is to increase school pay-outs
VT ChemE 1986 10/09/23 06:21 PM ET
Hope they revisit UConn as well. A basketball juggernaut. **
Big12 guy 10/09/23 03:39 PM ET
I hope we get UConn. UConn except FB would be great in the ACC.
Truthahn 10/10/23 01:04 PM ET
They have been waiting for an invite for a while. If the ACC passes.......**
Big12 guy 10/10/23 01:39 PM ET
We ignored a bunch of good conference realignment moves recently.
Truthahn 10/10/23 08:04 PM ET
Given that Gonzaga doesn't sponsor football, it may not make sense for the
VTHokie2000 10/09/23 08:05 PM ET
I don't care. the playbook has been thrown out. it's about money and
Big12 guy 10/09/23 08:53 PM ET
Future conference schedules has nothing to do with hanging onto the past
VTHokie2000 10/09/23 10:47 PM ET
The only football schools left are in the ACC, and I don't see that
Big12 guy 10/10/23 06:53 AM ET
Once a conference expands to 16 members, then it will not want to create
VTHokie2000 10/10/23 01:43 PM ET
I think the B12 is done with football. There are no schools that bring
Big12 guy 10/10/23 02:26 PM ET
It doesn't matter if a school brings more money for basketball or not
VTHokie2000 10/12/23 08:56 AM ET
UConn may be worth it. If the basketball media contracts are seperated.
Big12 guy 10/12/23 09:09 AM ET
It is sad that, were UConn to join the ACC, they would be good in 5 years.
Truthahn 10/16/23 03:08 PM ET
It may not matter if the contracts are separated or not because the impasse
VTHokie2000 10/12/23 09:48 AM ET
Washington State would be a good travel partner for Gonzaga. UConn
Big12 guy 10/12/23 10:24 AM ET
Wazzou would be a good travel partner for Gonzaga. The same argument
VTHokie2000 10/12/23 11:56 AM ET
Sorry, B12guy, I thought you were talking Wazzu and Oregon St.**
33laszlo99 10/14/23 12:16 AM ET
Pullman and Corvalis are over 400 miles apart. They make good travel
33laszlo99 10/13/23 11:27 PM ET
Even though we were talking about Gonzaga and Wazzu as travel partners, it
VTHokie2000 10/14/23 08:50 PM ET
In this day and age, football with P conferences will never be off
Big12 guy 10/12/23 12:19 PM ET
Gonzaga does have a national brand in basketball, so it does make cents
VTHokie2000 10/12/23 01:48 PM ET
For the record, I don't think Uconn would separate their football, nor
Big12 guy 10/12/23 03:02 PM ET
You can also throw out your view on P5/G5 with the bathwater too because
VTHokie2000 10/12/23 03:23 PM ET
Not there yet. i see a P2 and a P1. The P2 will
Big12 guy 10/12/23 04:05 PM ET
Basketball may very well be able to generate enough money to appease the
VTHokie2000 10/12/23 05:28 PM ET
Utah's President Helped Doom the Pac 12
WBGV 10/09/23 12:30 PM ET
Talks between the Big 12 Conference and Gonzaga have reportedly resumed
WBGV 10/09/23 12:58 PM ET
Army-American Athletic Conference Talks Continue
WBGV 10/09/23 01:26 PM ET