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The power in the BE was in basketball...

The BE was formed as a basketball conference, by basketball schools. The problem they had was they has a couple of Power-5 level football schools (Pitt, BC and Cuse) mixed in with the majority of primarily Catholic private schools that did not play football on the D1 level (G'town, Prov, St Johns, Nova, Seton Hall) and UConn. The problem with the BE was not vision. They were visionaries to create the basketball conference in the first place. I'm sure they understood that football was increasing driving the bus. The problem is... the basketball schools did not care - and they had all the power. The BEFC was a compromise for the basketball schools to have their cake and eat it too. Add WVU and Miami in all sports and VT and Temple for just football - to keep the basketball schools the voting power. When you look at the BE from a football-only perspective and criticize them for not making more football moves, you're not understanding that this was a basketball-centric conference and the majority of schools wanted it that way. Trained-geese was paid by basketball. He was not an idiot - he did what he needed to do to draw his paycheck. That just did not line up with what VT and other football schools needed.
Posted: 09/20/2023 at 09:50 AM ET
(In response to this post by 2hhoop3)

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Would Maryland and Rutgers get B10 invites today?
LonghornHokie • 09/15/23 07:23 PM ET
My immediate reaction was “No”, however, “Maybe.”
BeachGobbler • 09/19/23 01:30 PM ET
You mean the two "trash programs"
Vippie1 • 09/17/23 05:35 PM ET
Hey just because we're terrrible
mancunian • 09/18/23 08:52 AM ET
The SEC goes for rivalries not markets, the B1G goes for markets 2 models,
Stech • 09/16/23 10:55 PM ET
Possibly because the B1G/Fox were adding NYC and Wash/Baltimore
HOO86 • 09/16/23 07:49 AM ET
But the B1X added the NJ market. Cuse added the NYC market to the ACC
EDGEMAN • 09/17/23 07:30 AM ET
Being in the Metro Area gets them I believe.
HOO86 • 09/18/23 04:06 PM ET
I never understood how they thought Syracuse...
Culpeper Hokie • 09/17/23 09:42 AM ET
It's called having a school in the state.
EDGEMAN • 09/17/23 10:27 AM ET
Same reason the ACC added BC (Boston) and Cuse (NY)**
Hardcore_Hokie • 09/16/23 07:57 AM ET
The ACC has wanted Cuse since the 80s.
HOO86 • 09/16/23 08:08 AM ET
Then Miami president Donna Shalala pushed hard for BC
Millpoint • 09/16/23 02:14 PM ET
WVU, Pitt, & VT would have been much better choices.**
EDGEMAN • 09/17/23 07:47 AM ET
Conferences don’t “want” schools. Networks want big media markets.
Hardcore_Hokie • 09/16/23 08:25 AM ET
It was different in the late 80s
HOO86 • 09/16/23 08:55 AM ET
The ACC should've gone after Penn State in the 1980's...
Old Line Hokie • 09/16/23 10:56 AM ET
ACC didn’t even think to ask PSU. The folks in charge were blindsided
reestuart • 09/17/23 04:21 PM ET
Joe ws screaming from a rooftop that a conference needed to be formed. Look
Big12 guy • 09/16/23 11:35 AM ET
VT would have been excluded from JoePa's football conference
EDGEMAN • 09/17/23 07:33 AM ET
It would have been nice to have them in the Big East. If that had happened
IB4TECH • 09/16/23 07:57 PM ET
No, the Big East with the Basketball schools was doomed from the start. **
Big12 guy • 09/16/23 11:23 PM ET
I think he may have.....
2hhoop3 • 09/16/23 12:05 PM ET
FSU and even adding Miami may have changed Paterno's mind.
Old Line Hokie • 09/16/23 02:08 PM ET
Not if there was a Northeast football conference (before the Big East). The
Big12 guy • 09/16/23 06:14 PM ET
Paterno would have formed it in the Big East
HOO86 • 09/16/23 07:42 PM ET
Basketball was the death nail. The future (as we know now) was
Big12 guy • 09/16/23 11:28 PM ET
Did you actually mean “death nail?” Or death knell?
WestyHokie • 09/19/23 07:17 PM ET
A play on words. **
Big12 guy • 09/21/23 09:26 AM ET
Based on how things evolved? Very likely with the regional football schools
Big12 guy • 09/16/23 12:08 PM ET
The BE and the ACC......
2hhoop3 • 09/16/23 12:18 PM ET
The power in the BE was in basketball... ◄
gman86 • 09/20/23 09:50 AM ET
I understand all of that......
2hhoop3 • 09/20/23 10:17 AM ET
Tranghese told Dave Gavitt
mancunian • 09/18/23 01:00 PM ET
I see Tranghese a little differently (and I am not a fan of his)
corvt2000 • 09/16/23 03:59 PM ET
If UNC and Dook had locked out VT, would the SEC have come calling?
EDGEMAN • 09/17/23 07:39 AM ET
I think if you look a little deeper......
2hhoop3 • 09/16/23 04:28 PM ET
Agree, Tranghese waited until 1999 when Tech was one of...
Old Line Hokie • 09/16/23 02:21 PM ET
They didn't want VT to be on an equal BB footing with the BE BB schools
EDGEMAN • 09/17/23 07:42 AM ET
I believe the only reason the Big East offered full membership to VT when
VTHokie2000 • 09/16/23 03:09 PM ET
I think Gene Corrigan regretted not doing that
HOO86 • 09/16/23 11:08 AM ET
ACC's lack of bowl tie in hurt them
mrcaniac • 09/17/23 05:51 PM ET
Donna Shelela would have still preferred Cuse and BC over PSU
EDGEMAN • 09/17/23 07:45 AM ET
maybe still. with Big 10 grabbing USC and UCLA
Mercury • 09/16/23 09:28 AM ET
Yes, and that one was specifically directed by Fox**
HOO86 • 09/16/23 09:42 AM ET
Fox was directing the B12 to seriously consider Gonzaga and UConn
Big12 guy • 09/16/23 10:52 AM ET
Was that Fox or Yormack?
HOO86 • 09/16/23 07:46 PM ET
Ummm, do you think that any conference today makes a move without a network
Big12 guy • 09/16/23 11:30 PM ET
Absolutely not. It was a very different time when they were added.**
tarheelblue • 09/15/23 07:33 PM ET