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I think my most meaningful contribution was

cutting red tape for the response in the field in the panhandle. The response for the peninsula (panhandle was under the New Orleans group) was at St Pete where USCG is effectively co-located with FWRI (FWC) and NOAA/NMFS, as well as USF's big research vessel that was tracking oil movement. So it was mostly a very well staffed, fairly calm, and coordinated planning exercise interrupted by BP contractors acting like morons...until they learned that we could get them whatever they needed in terms of data and local cooperation. Regional/National agency leadership kept trying to send us people from Alaska to tell us how to do stuff. I fended that off and convinced them not to send anyone I didn't ask for. I had been a part of 3 major spill responses years before in Texas, and FWRI and USF folks knew enough about the gulf currents to know we weren't in any real danger of significant problems. Nevertheless we spent the early days writing a contingency plan for the peninsula; and they still use it...so not a waste. Pressure was working almost 24/7 for weeks and weeks with FWC leadership in Tally who was dealing with the panhandle and the New Orleans group (which did have Alaska federal folks who were burning every bridge they came across...I got one of them sent home). My shop in FL was over sea turtles, manatees, and a few dozen other listed species for the agency. So the species experts they were using in the response were almost exclusively my staff. Sea turtles were a headliner in the response. So we were integral in setting up the hatchery at Merritt Island/KSC and making sure FWC could staff out what they needed to in terms of handling fed trust stuff. BP's demands of our experts was literally abusive. We had no backups in terms of expertise so we were quickly educated how to record our time. I never rotated out and my turtle and manatee leads never rotated out. Not the healthiest decision but there literally wasn't anyone else who could cover those jobs. I approved the decision to release the hatchlings in the Atlantic rather than the Gulf and since that had never been tried, and there would never be any data to show one way or the other, we didn't credit BP with saving any of them. I don't know if BP ever got that assumption overturned; I'm sure they tried. Politically, large spills probably have to be federalized. No President is ever going on TV to say; "well we're keeping a eye on things, but you know, I'm sure they'll do a good job". But if at all possible, that should always be a last resort. Federalizing a response puts the responsible party in a position of leverage over the federal agencies...until the last penny is spent years and years later. We quickly learned that lesson in Texas so two of our large spills were not federalized. That puts the onus on the spiller to account for everything and come up with remediation plans/measures. And that is a FAR better and more effective position to be in and the money gets spent where it needs to be spent years faster. ** Edited by daveinop at 4/18/2024, 9:12:43 AM
Posted: 04/18/2024 at 09:08 AM ET
(In response to this post by VTHokie2000)

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Questions about "Research". Re: B1G, AAU, research grants, etc.
Maroon Baboon 04/13/24 02:53 AM ET
I understand VT recently was denied AAU status again. I don’t get it **
3TechFanz 04/15/24 01:04 PM ET
I look at the list of AAU schools and maybe I'm being too elitist
HokieNoVA 04/15/24 02:18 PM ET
There's more than just research numbers.
HouClone 04/15/24 04:36 PM ET
You’d think Tim Sands - a Berkeley guy - would get this done **
3TechFanz 04/15/24 04:34 PM ET
For #3 and the last bit of 4,
Pylons 04/14/24 01:09 AM ET
Well it is in a different level of research that can be offered
DMV Gobbler 04/14/24 07:50 AM ET
Your last sentence gets at the crux of this
Pylons 04/14/24 09:30 AM ET
Some professors are brought in mostly because of their research potential.
wwhokie1 04/13/24 04:19 PM ET
I have recently retired from VT after a 35+ years career here.
Gadfly 04/14/24 08:21 AM ET
One of the most informative posts I have seen on TSL. Thanks!**
pine52x 04/15/24 05:43 PM ET
That's a reason positions like
Pylons 04/13/24 06:33 PM ET
100% correct. **
VTownie 04/13/24 04:31 PM ET
I have worked in the business side of science for the bulk of my adult life
VTownie 04/13/24 02:25 PM ET
Very helpful. Thank you. Interesting that you describe it as an "arms race"
Maroon Baboon 04/13/24 03:52 PM ET
Universities take a percentage of each grant to “manage” the funds.
VTownie 04/13/24 04:30 PM ET
Wasn’t it a requirement for AAU to have an on campus med school
Marooned 04/13/24 06:09 PM ET
No. There are no specific requirements.**
Pylons 04/14/24 12:55 AM ET
It's more difficult for some rural land-grant universitiies to have...
Old Line Hokie 04/13/24 08:25 PM ET
Cornell’s is in NYC.**
RJHokie 04/13/24 08:41 PM ET
Yep. Ithaca is similar to Blacksburg but further from a decent sized city.**
Old Line Hokie 04/13/24 08:46 PM ET
I believe U Va has the only major medical center not located
RJHokie 04/13/24 08:49 PM ET
FWIW I work for a bureau in the Department of the Interior (DOI) as a
VTHokie2000 04/13/24 04:17 PM ET
i was primary liaison between a DOI bureau and its state of FL
daveinop 04/15/24 07:31 PM ET
I bet the circus wasn't as bad as the sex scandal out of the Denver office.**
VTHokie2000 04/16/24 05:31 PM ET
that was MMS, right?
daveinop 04/17/24 10:41 AM ET
Yes, that was MMS. About 6 months or so prior to Deep Water.**
VTHokie2000 04/17/24 07:34 PM ET
I think my most meaningful contribution was
daveinop 04/18/24 09:08 AM ET
In general, I agree with you federalizing a spill is probably not the best
VTHokie2000 04/18/24 09:28 AM ET
I had my chance to make the case, but it wasn't realistic and that's not
daveinop 04/18/24 05:23 PM ET