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I have worked in the business side of science for the bulk of my adult life

There are numerous granting agencies. Some schools do get funding from private sources, but most are via government grants. This has been how science has operated since WWII. To the best of my knowledge the largest granting agency for science is the National Institutes of Health. By and large they fund biomedical research. That type of work is far more expensive, and gets more funding than other fields, such as agriculture and engineering. Virginia Tech does get a lot of grant money, but compared to schools with a hospital and large medical school they lag behind. Duke and UNC are two of the largest in the US and dwarf what VT brings in. I have never worked with any of the B1G schools but I have seen figures before for a few of them. To grow research revenue you need to bring in professors with large grant budgets and enhance facilities. It’s an “arms race” that all large schools are fighting. VT’s research standing is somewhat comparable to how we’ve embeem in football over the last 10 years. University research is not corrupt. There are a few cases of people falsifying data, but that ends a career and is they anre extremely small outliers. I can honestly only think of two cases in the south east of note in the last 25 years. Basic research at a university is not done the way it would be at a private business and so in some ways it may be less efficient BUT it also allows people to address questions that would not otherwise be answered. Additionally some of those questions lead to business ventures that are critical to a specific sector of our economy. Plus a lot of the work done at universities is used by business who cannot justify spending they money on projects but use the answers to fuel commercial development. That answer was somewhat rambling but if you have any follow up let me know.
Posted: 04/13/2024 at 02:25 PM ET
(In response to this post by Maroon Baboon)

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Questions about "Research". Re: B1G, AAU, research grants, etc.
Maroon Baboon 04/13/24 02:53 AM ET
I understand VT recently was denied AAU status again. I don’t get it **
3TechFanz 04/15/24 01:04 PM ET
I look at the list of AAU schools and maybe I'm being too elitist
HokieNoVA 04/15/24 02:18 PM ET
There's more than just research numbers.
HouClone 04/15/24 04:36 PM ET
You’d think Tim Sands - a Berkeley guy - would get this done **
3TechFanz 04/15/24 04:34 PM ET
For #3 and the last bit of 4,
Pylons 04/14/24 01:09 AM ET
Well it is in a different level of research that can be offered
DMV Gobbler 04/14/24 07:50 AM ET
Your last sentence gets at the crux of this
Pylons 04/14/24 09:30 AM ET
Some professors are brought in mostly because of their research potential.
wwhokie1 04/13/24 04:19 PM ET
I have recently retired from VT after a 35+ years career here.
Gadfly 04/14/24 08:21 AM ET
One of the most informative posts I have seen on TSL. Thanks!**
pine52x 04/15/24 05:43 PM ET
That's a reason positions like
Pylons 04/13/24 06:33 PM ET
100% correct. **
VTownie 04/13/24 04:31 PM ET
I have worked in the business side of science for the bulk of my adult life
VTownie 04/13/24 02:25 PM ET
Very helpful. Thank you. Interesting that you describe it as an "arms race"
Maroon Baboon 04/13/24 03:52 PM ET
Universities take a percentage of each grant to “manage” the funds.
VTownie 04/13/24 04:30 PM ET
Wasn’t it a requirement for AAU to have an on campus med school
Marooned 04/13/24 06:09 PM ET
No. There are no specific requirements.**
Pylons 04/14/24 12:55 AM ET
It's more difficult for some rural land-grant universitiies to have...
Old Line Hokie 04/13/24 08:25 PM ET
Cornell’s is in NYC.**
RJHokie 04/13/24 08:41 PM ET
Yep. Ithaca is similar to Blacksburg but further from a decent sized city.**
Old Line Hokie 04/13/24 08:46 PM ET
I believe U Va has the only major medical center not located
RJHokie 04/13/24 08:49 PM ET
FWIW I work for a bureau in the Department of the Interior (DOI) as a
VTHokie2000 04/13/24 04:17 PM ET
i was primary liaison between a DOI bureau and its state of FL
daveinop 04/15/24 07:31 PM ET
I bet the circus wasn't as bad as the sex scandal out of the Denver office.**
VTHokie2000 04/16/24 05:31 PM ET
that was MMS, right?
daveinop 04/17/24 10:41 AM ET
Yes, that was MMS. About 6 months or so prior to Deep Water.**
VTHokie2000 04/17/24 07:34 PM ET
I think my most meaningful contribution was
daveinop 04/18/24 09:08 AM ET
In general, I agree with you federalizing a spill is probably not the best
VTHokie2000 04/18/24 09:28 AM ET
I had my chance to make the case, but it wasn't realistic and that's not
daveinop 04/18/24 05:23 PM ET