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Fox was directing the B12 to seriously consider Gonzaga and UConn

before the PAC imploded. I liked the basketball angle, but some pretty darn good football schools became available, so we are where we are today. I will continue to argue that the football moves are all but done except for the ACC. Id your conference loses the football schools, it will be very difficult to compete for the money in football. As long as the ACC and B12 continue to win playoff games, and maybe the occasional G5, we have a shot of keeping college football as we know it. If that TV money shuts the country out of the ability to compete, then we will be looking at something completely different. Legitimate access to the playoffs is key. If they monopolize that money, it's all over.
Posted: 09/16/2023 at 10:52 AM ET
(In response to this post by HOO86)

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Would Maryland and Rutgers get B10 invites today?
LonghornHokie • 09/15/23 07:23 PM ET
My immediate reaction was “No”, however, “Maybe.”
BeachGobbler • 09/19/23 01:30 PM ET
You mean the two "trash programs"
Vippie1 • 09/17/23 05:35 PM ET
Hey just because we're terrrible
mancunian • 09/18/23 08:52 AM ET
The SEC goes for rivalries not markets, the B1G goes for markets 2 models,
Stech • 09/16/23 10:55 PM ET
Possibly because the B1G/Fox were adding NYC and Wash/Baltimore
HOO86 • 09/16/23 07:49 AM ET
But the B1X added the NJ market. Cuse added the NYC market to the ACC
EDGEMAN • 09/17/23 07:30 AM ET
Being in the Metro Area gets them I believe.
HOO86 • 09/18/23 04:06 PM ET
I never understood how they thought Syracuse...
Culpeper Hokie • 09/17/23 09:42 AM ET
It's called having a school in the state.
EDGEMAN • 09/17/23 10:27 AM ET
Same reason the ACC added BC (Boston) and Cuse (NY)**
Hardcore_Hokie • 09/16/23 07:57 AM ET
The ACC has wanted Cuse since the 80s.
HOO86 • 09/16/23 08:08 AM ET
Then Miami president Donna Shalala pushed hard for BC
Millpoint • 09/16/23 02:14 PM ET
WVU, Pitt, & VT would have been much better choices.**
EDGEMAN • 09/17/23 07:47 AM ET
Conferences don’t “want” schools. Networks want big media markets.
Hardcore_Hokie • 09/16/23 08:25 AM ET
It was different in the late 80s
HOO86 • 09/16/23 08:55 AM ET
The ACC should've gone after Penn State in the 1980's...
Old Line Hokie • 09/16/23 10:56 AM ET
ACC didn’t even think to ask PSU. The folks in charge were blindsided
reestuart • 09/17/23 04:21 PM ET
Joe ws screaming from a rooftop that a conference needed to be formed. Look
Big12 guy • 09/16/23 11:35 AM ET
VT would have been excluded from JoePa's football conference
EDGEMAN • 09/17/23 07:33 AM ET
It would have been nice to have them in the Big East. If that had happened
IB4TECH • 09/16/23 07:57 PM ET
No, the Big East with the Basketball schools was doomed from the start. **
Big12 guy • 09/16/23 11:23 PM ET
I think he may have.....
2hhoop3 • 09/16/23 12:05 PM ET
FSU and even adding Miami may have changed Paterno's mind.
Old Line Hokie • 09/16/23 02:08 PM ET
Not if there was a Northeast football conference (before the Big East). The
Big12 guy • 09/16/23 06:14 PM ET
Paterno would have formed it in the Big East
HOO86 • 09/16/23 07:42 PM ET
Basketball was the death nail. The future (as we know now) was
Big12 guy • 09/16/23 11:28 PM ET
Did you actually mean “death nail?” Or death knell?
WestyHokie • 09/19/23 07:17 PM ET
A play on words. **
Big12 guy • 09/21/23 09:26 AM ET
Based on how things evolved? Very likely with the regional football schools
Big12 guy • 09/16/23 12:08 PM ET
The BE and the ACC......
2hhoop3 • 09/16/23 12:18 PM ET
The power in the BE was in basketball...
gman86 • 09/20/23 09:50 AM ET
I understand all of that......
2hhoop3 • 09/20/23 10:17 AM ET
Tranghese told Dave Gavitt
mancunian • 09/18/23 01:00 PM ET
I see Tranghese a little differently (and I am not a fan of his)
corvt2000 • 09/16/23 03:59 PM ET
If UNC and Dook had locked out VT, would the SEC have come calling?
EDGEMAN • 09/17/23 07:39 AM ET
I think if you look a little deeper......
2hhoop3 • 09/16/23 04:28 PM ET
Agree, Tranghese waited until 1999 when Tech was one of...
Old Line Hokie • 09/16/23 02:21 PM ET
They didn't want VT to be on an equal BB footing with the BE BB schools
EDGEMAN • 09/17/23 07:42 AM ET
I believe the only reason the Big East offered full membership to VT when
VTHokie2000 • 09/16/23 03:09 PM ET
I think Gene Corrigan regretted not doing that
HOO86 • 09/16/23 11:08 AM ET
ACC's lack of bowl tie in hurt them
mrcaniac • 09/17/23 05:51 PM ET
Donna Shelela would have still preferred Cuse and BC over PSU
EDGEMAN • 09/17/23 07:45 AM ET
maybe still. with Big 10 grabbing USC and UCLA
Mercury • 09/16/23 09:28 AM ET
Yes, and that one was specifically directed by Fox**
HOO86 • 09/16/23 09:42 AM ET
Fox was directing the B12 to seriously consider Gonzaga and UConn ◄
Big12 guy • 09/16/23 10:52 AM ET
Was that Fox or Yormack?
HOO86 • 09/16/23 07:46 PM ET
Ummm, do you think that any conference today makes a move without a network
Big12 guy • 09/16/23 11:30 PM ET
Absolutely not. It was a very different time when they were added.**
tarheelblue • 09/15/23 07:33 PM ET