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Vienna_Hokie
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Vienna_Hokie

They were absolutely no brainers to not add, they add nothing, they cost

The GOR is for 13 more years. In that time, this whole thing is going to go upside down. This is nothing about being arrogant like the PAC12, once again, the difference is we have a solid, if not remarkable payout for 13 years, the PAC had no contract at all. If you don't see how that is different , then you are just being obtuse. If nothing else changes in the next 10 years, there is reason to start looking at this. If the top teams pay huge money to leave, then you look at it. Adding a bunch of additional welfare cases at this point, just ensures the end, probably sooner.
Posted: 08/21/2023 at 08:34 PM ET
(In response to this post by Big12 guy)

Thread Replies (51)

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B12 comes tomorrow and offers a spot. You’re the AD. Yes or No?**
JKHokie-RunFor32 • 08/21/23 12:21 PM ET
Seriously?
jesuisvtguy • 08/21/23 05:11 PM ET
haha no**
VT Pez4Life • 08/21/23 03:59 PM ET
No...the Big12 sucks (unless we have to join)**
Tuckahokie • 08/21/23 03:30 PM ET
No. ACC payouts should pass Big 12 in a few years...
Old Line Hokie • 08/21/23 03:29 PM ET
There is no point where ACC payouts will surpass the B12**
xx97 • 08/21/23 05:01 PM ET
2026
Vienna_Hokie • 08/21/23 06:11 PM ET
Shows PAC12 passing Big 12 next year.
HokieDelNorte • 08/21/23 06:42 PM ET
I said it was from before the PAC break up
Vienna_Hokie • 08/21/23 06:49 PM ET
why??? I don't get this recent awe of the Big 12,
cvillehokie92 • 08/21/23 02:13 PM ET
Utah is a bottom feeder in all this as well, how you do on field
Vienna_Hokie • 08/21/23 06:12 PM ET
Tomorrow~no. If ACC blows up and no invite from B10 or SEC, then yes
hokiesrule98 • 08/21/23 02:10 PM ET
The B12 would take VT in a heartbeat, and based on recent events, would
Big12 guy • 08/22/23 06:53 AM ET
Definitely no!**
hokie77 • 08/21/23 01:53 PM ET
No**
HokieJamie • 08/21/23 01:37 PM ET
More-- it historically going back to the SWC etc. has not been the most
Nelsonia Hokie • 08/21/23 01:37 PM ET
Correct, B12 was the TX/OU/NEB/aTm and who they wanted to own after the SWC
Vienna_Hokie • 08/21/23 06:33 PM ET
No., **
Nelsonia Hokie • 08/21/23 01:30 PM ET
No......
2hhoop3 • 08/21/23 01:22 PM ET
if the top schools leave, the ACC leftovers can become a B12 clone
Vienna_Hokie • 08/21/23 09:10 PM ET
No thanks, zero financial benefit right now.
wwhokie1 • 08/21/23 01:18 PM ET
What if you were Cuse or Pitt? Or even Duke? When the
Big12 guy • 08/21/23 01:34 PM ET
If I were Pitt, Cuse, or Duke, I would be very concerned. GOR prevents
wwhokie1 • 08/21/23 06:23 PM ET
why? assuming (which I don't) FSU/Clem/Miami/UNC leave
Vienna_Hokie • 08/21/23 07:14 PM ET
If the ACC loses its top 4 to 6 teams, I seriously doubt they will be able
wwhokie1 • 08/21/23 10:29 PM ET
Set aside your opinion of the B12 for a moment, and focus
Big12 guy • 08/21/23 08:03 PM ET
If the GOR holds, and nothing says it won't, expansion is irrelevant
Vienna_Hokie • 08/21/23 08:18 PM ET
The GOR is not forever, and the current situation is untenable.
Big12 guy • 08/21/23 08:27 PM ET
They were absolutely no brainers to not add, they add nothing, they cost ◄
Vienna_Hokie • 08/21/23 08:34 PM ET
With each day and year.......
2hhoop3 • 08/21/23 08:53 PM ET
Yes, the current model is not sustainable for anyone except the SEC
Vienna_Hokie • 08/21/23 09:08 PM ET
Ill be the first to admit that I don't know the answer for the ACC, but
Big12 guy • 08/22/23 08:37 AM ET
If the goal is survival at any cost, then it should die
Vienna_Hokie • 08/22/23 09:52 AM ET
yes for 70 mil per yr**
Windows NT • 08/21/23 01:12 PM ET
Nope! Not interested in B12! **
hoodat • 08/21/23 12:51 PM ET
Neither was the PAC4. **
Big12 guy • 08/21/23 12:57 PM ET
They also didn't have 12+ years remaining on a GOR that pays very well**
Vienna_Hokie • 08/21/23 02:45 PM ET
Fair, but the fact is, they never made the call. Remember, before the PAC
Big12 guy • 08/21/23 03:50 PM ET
Once again, there is nothing out there that makes the ACC better
Vienna_Hokie • 08/21/23 05:52 PM ET
Now, or when the top ACC teams leave? **
Big12 guy • 08/21/23 08:06 PM ET
both, if top teams leave, you see what that means and decide how to move
Vienna_Hokie • 08/21/23 08:21 PM ET
I think WV and UCF are content. They should be in the ACC, but there
Big12 guy • 08/21/23 08:36 PM ET
No Thanks
Millpoint • 08/21/23 12:48 PM ET
You control nothing yet. Bunch of scrambled eggs needing bacon.**
MrFantastic! • 08/21/23 12:56 PM ET
Big 12 doesn't want or need ND**
Millpoint • 08/21/23 02:22 PM ET
All would take ND. BIG 12 took WVU. They take about anyone!**
MrFantastic! • 08/21/23 02:25 PM ET
Says the league that gobbled up Louisville, BC, Syracuse, etc?**
xx97 • 08/21/23 05:03 PM ET
That's ok
Millpoint • 08/21/23 02:30 PM ET
LOL.. why so huffy? Ames rivalry game got you nervous?**
MrFantastic! • 08/21/23 02:33 PM ET
Better to have a real rival in Ames
Millpoint • 08/21/23 04:09 PM ET
No thank you.**
EDGEMAN • 08/21/23 12:45 PM ET
No thank you period**
Mercury • 08/21/23 12:28 PM ET