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If the ACC loses its top 4 to 6 teams, I seriously doubt they will be able

To keep up with the big 12 financially. The Big 12 has done a good job recovering from losing their top two elite teams. By the time the ACC loses it's top two elite teams, there's not going to be much to pick from for recovery. And there's going to be more than two teams trying to leave. Don't know how successful other schools will be in trying to get invites. But I do believe there's a reasonable chance the ACC falls clearly behind the big 12.
Posted: 08/21/2023 at 10:29 PM ET
(In response to this post by Vienna_Hokie)

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B12 comes tomorrow and offers a spot. You’re the AD. Yes or No?**
JKHokie-RunFor32 08/21/23 12:21 PM ET
Seriously?
jesuisvtguy 08/21/23 05:11 PM ET
haha no**
VT Pez4Life 08/21/23 03:59 PM ET
No...the Big12 sucks (unless we have to join)**
Tuckahokie 08/21/23 03:30 PM ET
No. ACC payouts should pass Big 12 in a few years...
Old Line Hokie 08/21/23 03:29 PM ET
There is no point where ACC payouts will surpass the B12**
xx97 08/21/23 05:01 PM ET
2026
Vienna_Hokie 08/21/23 06:11 PM ET
Shows PAC12 passing Big 12 next year.
HokieDelNorte 08/21/23 06:42 PM ET
I said it was from before the PAC break up
Vienna_Hokie 08/21/23 06:49 PM ET
why??? I don't get this recent awe of the Big 12,
cvillehokie92 08/21/23 02:13 PM ET
Utah is a bottom feeder in all this as well, how you do on field
Vienna_Hokie 08/21/23 06:12 PM ET
Tomorrow~no. If ACC blows up and no invite from B10 or SEC, then yes
hokiesrule98 08/21/23 02:10 PM ET
The B12 would take VT in a heartbeat, and based on recent events, would
Big12 guy 08/22/23 06:53 AM ET
Definitely no!**
hokie77 08/21/23 01:53 PM ET
No**
HokieJamie 08/21/23 01:37 PM ET
More-- it historically going back to the SWC etc. has not been the most
Nelsonia Hokie 08/21/23 01:37 PM ET
Correct, B12 was the TX/OU/NEB/aTm and who they wanted to own after the SWC
Vienna_Hokie 08/21/23 06:33 PM ET
No., **
Nelsonia Hokie 08/21/23 01:30 PM ET
No......
2hhoop3 08/21/23 01:22 PM ET
if the top schools leave, the ACC leftovers can become a B12 clone
Vienna_Hokie 08/21/23 09:10 PM ET
No thanks, zero financial benefit right now.
wwhokie1 08/21/23 01:18 PM ET
What if you were Cuse or Pitt? Or even Duke? When the
Big12 guy 08/21/23 01:34 PM ET
If I were Pitt, Cuse, or Duke, I would be very concerned. GOR prevents
wwhokie1 08/21/23 06:23 PM ET
why? assuming (which I don't) FSU/Clem/Miami/UNC leave
Vienna_Hokie 08/21/23 07:14 PM ET
If the ACC loses its top 4 to 6 teams, I seriously doubt they will be able
wwhokie1 08/21/23 10:29 PM ET
Set aside your opinion of the B12 for a moment, and focus
Big12 guy 08/21/23 08:03 PM ET
If the GOR holds, and nothing says it won't, expansion is irrelevant
Vienna_Hokie 08/21/23 08:18 PM ET
The GOR is not forever, and the current situation is untenable.
Big12 guy 08/21/23 08:27 PM ET
They were absolutely no brainers to not add, they add nothing, they cost
Vienna_Hokie 08/21/23 08:34 PM ET
With each day and year.......
2hhoop3 08/21/23 08:53 PM ET
Yes, the current model is not sustainable for anyone except the SEC
Vienna_Hokie 08/21/23 09:08 PM ET
Ill be the first to admit that I don't know the answer for the ACC, but
Big12 guy 08/22/23 08:37 AM ET
If the goal is survival at any cost, then it should die
Vienna_Hokie 08/22/23 09:52 AM ET
yes for 70 mil per yr**
Windows NT 08/21/23 01:12 PM ET
Nope! Not interested in B12! **
hoodat 08/21/23 12:51 PM ET
Neither was the PAC4. **
Big12 guy 08/21/23 12:57 PM ET
They also didn't have 12+ years remaining on a GOR that pays very well**
Vienna_Hokie 08/21/23 02:45 PM ET
Fair, but the fact is, they never made the call. Remember, before the PAC
Big12 guy 08/21/23 03:50 PM ET
Once again, there is nothing out there that makes the ACC better
Vienna_Hokie 08/21/23 05:52 PM ET
Now, or when the top ACC teams leave? **
Big12 guy 08/21/23 08:06 PM ET
both, if top teams leave, you see what that means and decide how to move
Vienna_Hokie 08/21/23 08:21 PM ET
I think WV and UCF are content. They should be in the ACC, but there
Big12 guy 08/21/23 08:36 PM ET
No Thanks
Millpoint 08/21/23 12:48 PM ET
You control nothing yet. Bunch of scrambled eggs needing bacon.**
MrFantastic! 08/21/23 12:56 PM ET
Big 12 doesn't want or need ND**
Millpoint 08/21/23 02:22 PM ET
All would take ND. BIG 12 took WVU. They take about anyone!**
MrFantastic! 08/21/23 02:25 PM ET
Says the league that gobbled up Louisville, BC, Syracuse, etc?**
xx97 08/21/23 05:03 PM ET
That's ok
Millpoint 08/21/23 02:30 PM ET
LOL.. why so huffy? Ames rivalry game got you nervous?**
MrFantastic! 08/21/23 02:33 PM ET
Better to have a real rival in Ames
Millpoint 08/21/23 04:09 PM ET
No thank you.**
EDGEMAN 08/21/23 12:45 PM ET
No thank you period**
Mercury 08/21/23 12:28 PM ET