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Vienna_Hokie
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Once again, there is nothing out there that makes the ACC better

the Big12 model of a bunch of schools all over the country with nothing to tie them together is not better. The 4 PAC schools that are going to the Big12 actually make sense, the 3 on the east coast do not (nor do they make sense for the ACC, they are 2 group of schools and WV who really doesn't fit anywhere (thus the reason it was in the Big12). The ACC is fine as it is right now despite the rumblings from FSU. The PAC schools didn't make the call before because even without USC and UCLA, it was at least on par with the B12. Colorado was no loss either, the call came because OR and WA got BIG invites and B12 is better than MWC. Until Clem, FSU, Miami and UNC have homes and leave (and figure out how to get out of the GOR) no ACC school has any reason to even consider the B12. ** Edited by Vienna_Hokie at 8/21/2023, 5:58:26 PM
Posted: 08/21/2023 at 05:52 PM ET
(In response to this post by Big12 guy)

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B12 comes tomorrow and offers a spot. You’re the AD. Yes or No?**
JKHokie-RunFor32 08/21/23 12:21 PM ET
Seriously?
jesuisvtguy 08/21/23 05:11 PM ET
haha no**
VT Pez4Life 08/21/23 03:59 PM ET
No...the Big12 sucks (unless we have to join)**
Tuckahokie 08/21/23 03:30 PM ET
No. ACC payouts should pass Big 12 in a few years...
Old Line Hokie 08/21/23 03:29 PM ET
There is no point where ACC payouts will surpass the B12**
xx97 08/21/23 05:01 PM ET
2026
Vienna_Hokie 08/21/23 06:11 PM ET
Shows PAC12 passing Big 12 next year.
HokieDelNorte 08/21/23 06:42 PM ET
I said it was from before the PAC break up
Vienna_Hokie 08/21/23 06:49 PM ET
why??? I don't get this recent awe of the Big 12,
cvillehokie92 08/21/23 02:13 PM ET
Utah is a bottom feeder in all this as well, how you do on field
Vienna_Hokie 08/21/23 06:12 PM ET
Tomorrow~no. If ACC blows up and no invite from B10 or SEC, then yes
hokiesrule98 08/21/23 02:10 PM ET
The B12 would take VT in a heartbeat, and based on recent events, would
Big12 guy 08/22/23 06:53 AM ET
Definitely no!**
hokie77 08/21/23 01:53 PM ET
No**
HokieJamie 08/21/23 01:37 PM ET
More-- it historically going back to the SWC etc. has not been the most
Nelsonia Hokie 08/21/23 01:37 PM ET
Correct, B12 was the TX/OU/NEB/aTm and who they wanted to own after the SWC
Vienna_Hokie 08/21/23 06:33 PM ET
No., **
Nelsonia Hokie 08/21/23 01:30 PM ET
No......
2hhoop3 08/21/23 01:22 PM ET
if the top schools leave, the ACC leftovers can become a B12 clone
Vienna_Hokie 08/21/23 09:10 PM ET
No thanks, zero financial benefit right now.
wwhokie1 08/21/23 01:18 PM ET
What if you were Cuse or Pitt? Or even Duke? When the
Big12 guy 08/21/23 01:34 PM ET
If I were Pitt, Cuse, or Duke, I would be very concerned. GOR prevents
wwhokie1 08/21/23 06:23 PM ET
why? assuming (which I don't) FSU/Clem/Miami/UNC leave
Vienna_Hokie 08/21/23 07:14 PM ET
If the ACC loses its top 4 to 6 teams, I seriously doubt they will be able
wwhokie1 08/21/23 10:29 PM ET
Set aside your opinion of the B12 for a moment, and focus
Big12 guy 08/21/23 08:03 PM ET
If the GOR holds, and nothing says it won't, expansion is irrelevant
Vienna_Hokie 08/21/23 08:18 PM ET
The GOR is not forever, and the current situation is untenable.
Big12 guy 08/21/23 08:27 PM ET
They were absolutely no brainers to not add, they add nothing, they cost
Vienna_Hokie 08/21/23 08:34 PM ET
With each day and year.......
2hhoop3 08/21/23 08:53 PM ET
Yes, the current model is not sustainable for anyone except the SEC
Vienna_Hokie 08/21/23 09:08 PM ET
Ill be the first to admit that I don't know the answer for the ACC, but
Big12 guy 08/22/23 08:37 AM ET
If the goal is survival at any cost, then it should die
Vienna_Hokie 08/22/23 09:52 AM ET
yes for 70 mil per yr**
Windows NT 08/21/23 01:12 PM ET
Nope! Not interested in B12! **
hoodat 08/21/23 12:51 PM ET
Neither was the PAC4. **
Big12 guy 08/21/23 12:57 PM ET
They also didn't have 12+ years remaining on a GOR that pays very well**
Vienna_Hokie 08/21/23 02:45 PM ET
Fair, but the fact is, they never made the call. Remember, before the PAC
Big12 guy 08/21/23 03:50 PM ET
Once again, there is nothing out there that makes the ACC better
Vienna_Hokie 08/21/23 05:52 PM ET
Now, or when the top ACC teams leave? **
Big12 guy 08/21/23 08:06 PM ET
both, if top teams leave, you see what that means and decide how to move
Vienna_Hokie 08/21/23 08:21 PM ET
I think WV and UCF are content. They should be in the ACC, but there
Big12 guy 08/21/23 08:36 PM ET
No Thanks
Millpoint 08/21/23 12:48 PM ET
You control nothing yet. Bunch of scrambled eggs needing bacon.**
MrFantastic! 08/21/23 12:56 PM ET
Big 12 doesn't want or need ND**
Millpoint 08/21/23 02:22 PM ET
All would take ND. BIG 12 took WVU. They take about anyone!**
MrFantastic! 08/21/23 02:25 PM ET
Says the league that gobbled up Louisville, BC, Syracuse, etc?**
xx97 08/21/23 05:03 PM ET
That's ok
Millpoint 08/21/23 02:30 PM ET
LOL.. why so huffy? Ames rivalry game got you nervous?**
MrFantastic! 08/21/23 02:33 PM ET
Better to have a real rival in Ames
Millpoint 08/21/23 04:09 PM ET
No thank you.**
EDGEMAN 08/21/23 12:45 PM ET
No thank you period**
Mercury 08/21/23 12:28 PM ET