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Blow to the SEC

I always was more concerned about the loss of Texas & Oklahoma for the SEC. David Boren, Bob Stoops & Deloss Dodds were not SEC southerners. Bob Stoops made it his pastime saying the SEC was overrated. Boren was known to be strongly pro B1G. Texas had been talking Pac-8 since the late 1970's and Deloss Dodds nearly brought that to fruition in 2011. Larry Scott nixed that deal at the last minute over the Longhorn Network, something that now will apparently haunt the PAC forevermore. All three of those people left positions of power at Texas & Oklahoma before both those schools announced an intention to join the SEC. I think all three leaving was an absolute necessity. I think there is absolutely no chance of Clemson not going SEC. You cannot get much more southern than South Carolina. I can elaborate but will not take the space here for a history lesson. FSU is another animal. Having already passed on the SEC a little over three decades ago. I remember seeing the SEC put in an extremely bad light on FSU blog boards about ten years ago. I just don't know about FSU. The SEC is great in football due to recruiting hotbeds. Great football coaches is a necessary but secondary issue. The SEC has relied on those two things bypassing the desire for a presence in the huge media markets. Huge media markets the B1G is now striving to control. B1G getting FSU & Georgia Tech would be a big blow against the SEC with the large Atlanta media market and the huge Florida recruiting hotbed. I don't think the SEC can withstand the B1G gaining that type foothold in the Florida recruiting hotbed. Georgia is another recruiting hotbed. Arkansas has got a lot of football athletes from Georgia since entering the SEC.
Posted: 07/31/2023 at 06:21 PM ET
(In response to this post by 33laszlo99)

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So when does the FSU President come out and debunk this rumor?
Stech 07/31/23 11:09 AM ET
FSU insiders say Michael Alford FSU AD had a meeting this morning and
HoakieCup 07/31/23 07:39 PM ET
Why would ESPN renegotiate a contract so they can lose FSU to the BIG?
wwhokie1 07/31/23 10:22 PM ET
They wouldn't
vtka93 07/31/23 10:48 PM ET
And, I don't think FSU's plan will work either. Essentially, they are
HoakieCup 08/01/23 08:30 AM ET
Correct. on your assumption.**
HoakieCup 08/01/23 07:37 AM ET
Props on six edits. I respect the dedication to post quality**
HokieAl 07/31/23 09:12 PM ET
Thanks for the update HoakieCup!**
Stech 07/31/23 09:06 PM ET
I assume it benefits them to let it grow for a bit
goldendomer 07/31/23 12:06 PM ET
…let I blossom. let it flow**
chumley 07/31/23 06:23 PM ET
In the sun, the rain, the snow, love is lovely, let it grow**
VPI_1998 07/31/23 07:33 PM ET
I believe
MrFantastic! 07/31/23 03:17 PM ET
The GOR is a Big 12 & ACC Thing
WarHog38 07/31/23 02:31 PM ET
Yeah I think we are getting an announcement they are leaving in 4-8 yrs
hokieZ71 07/31/23 12:48 PM ET
Why 4-8 years, when the GOR is for 13 years? TIA**
Stech 07/31/23 01:05 PM ET
Because they don’t want to stay until 2036 but they can’t leave now?**
hokieZ71 07/31/23 01:08 PM ET
So you think the settlement would be less because there are less years
Stech 07/31/23 01:24 PM ET
Personally, it’s all about money to me
hokieZ71 07/31/23 01:45 PM ET
Apparently, the report is now that
vtka93 07/31/23 09:30 PM ET
Not likely going to happen......
2hhoop3 07/31/23 10:08 PM ET
Oh I agree completely
vtka93 07/31/23 11:12 PM ET
Are your friends......
2hhoop3 07/31/23 11:32 PM ET
Your logic is spot on IMO, numbers are directionaly aligned as well
Vienna_Hokie 07/31/23 02:58 PM ET
Very well thought out interesting post, thanks for the reply!**
Stech 07/31/23 02:33 PM ET
I don't think they necessarily want out, they want a better deal
Vienna_Hokie 07/31/23 12:15 PM ET
#2 doesn't seem logical to me
vtka93 07/31/23 09:48 PM ET
Pretty sure us B12 trolls have zero effect on the outcomes. **
Big12 guy 07/31/23 01:51 PM ET
Logical reason #3: FSU is leaving The ACC.
33laszlo99 07/31/23 12:57 PM ET
IF they made the decision.....
2hhoop3 07/31/23 01:14 PM ET
Hoop, I'm not stirring the pot. My opinion is contrary to the overwhelming
33laszlo99 07/31/23 04:41 PM ET
Blow to the SEC
WarHog38 07/31/23 06:21 PM ET
That was the point of my.......
2hhoop3 07/31/23 05:54 PM ET
I hope Yormack reads this post. **
Big12 guy 07/31/23 09:58 PM ET
What do you believe.....
2hhoop3 07/31/23 11:06 PM ET
The last paragraph. Adding teams just to add them is nuts. The
Big12 guy 08/01/23 08:48 AM ET
Thanks for your interest, but I will not be providing any spreadsheets,
33laszlo99 07/31/23 07:51 PM ET
Spit balling.....
2hhoop3 07/31/23 07:56 PM ET
Sankey/the SEC completely blew it when they let CBS slip away. Now they
reestuart 07/31/23 04:56 PM ET
I think CBS just got outbid by ABC/ESPN. They were paying $55 million for
33laszlo99 07/31/23 07:30 PM ET
If the ACC had games a national audience cared about, there'd be spots
Vienna_Hokie 07/31/23 06:52 PM ET
The 12 would take Pitt tomorrow.
Big12 guy 07/31/23 07:20 PM ET
Did Sankey and the SEC.......
2hhoop3 07/31/23 06:06 PM ET
That has been on my mind. If they can find a way to just pay exit fee now
HokieAl 07/31/23 01:10 PM ET
# 2 would be ironic, since supposedly the B12 shared their GOR language w/
Stech 07/31/23 12:33 PM ET
A combination of......
2hhoop3 07/31/23 12:21 PM ET
The B12 is not P2 in football, and never will be In addition,
Big12 guy 07/31/23 02:00 PM ET
Nobody.....
2hhoop3 07/31/23 02:18 PM ET
I don't think there will be a program in the B12 that
Big12 guy 07/31/23 02:49 PM ET
The strange thing that is happening is that with this consolidation of
VPI_1998 07/31/23 07:21 PM ET
I disagree with this. Throughout history, there were teams that could
Big12 guy 08/01/23 10:06 AM ET
The problem with your.....
2hhoop3 08/01/23 10:36 AM ET
It's my contention that football
Big12 guy 08/01/23 10:49 AM ET
The issue is....
2hhoop3 08/01/23 11:13 AM ET
Exactly, had the B12 not knee jerked and added Cin/UCF/HOU...
Vienna_Hokie 07/31/23 12:49 PM ET
Good question to ask.**
Stech 07/31/23 12:43 PM ET
It would have to be after their BoT meeting at the earliest.
hokieZ71 07/31/23 11:30 AM ET
That would definitely be important indicator day IMHO.**
Stech 07/31/23 12:34 PM ET
crickets. Just asked a FSU alum who is following this closely.**
HoakieCup 07/31/23 11:30 AM ET
I almost posted this directly to you since I have followed your post on FSU
Stech 07/31/23 12:42 PM ET
They are all waiting to see how the BOT meeting on Wednesday goes. Smoke
HoakieCup 07/31/23 12:56 PM ET
Makes sense.**
Stech 07/31/23 01:01 PM ET
you're assuming it's a rumor they want to debunk..
Vienna_Hokie 07/31/23 11:20 AM ET