But not getting ND in could be final nail. WVU is nice option but how much more cash that produce? I am not sure Uva will go anywhere. They will possibly stick with the all sports concept and be damned football. What VT will do is interesting. I think with Sands we have been talking to someone called the BIG. In many ways we fit that league. Especially, if we have a east coast feeling. VT not going with some ACC friends though could hurt. Money be more but you have to have rivals. We miss WVU dearly whether people admit or not. Ticket sales must. If we go to BIG and Uva with us. It be great. I would love to see State go. GT with us would be huge. I agree nothing smells right but besides Sands whom at VT would pursue the BIG? Most desire ACC. Something we died for many years. Even I see the scare of leaving the ACC. It is a fit other than football. PERFECT fit. The ACC is in desperate mode. I would love to be fly on wall.