to name a few
1. I knew the ACC had no clue when during the first round of raiding the Big East, their pick was Miami, BC, Syr. I know the story that is who Miami wanted, but the ACC should have told Miami to pound sand and that they were going to pick the teams that were best for the conference as a whole.
2. That leads to this one. The ACC seems to "cater" to certain schools at times instead of doing what is best for the entire conference. The most recent example of this is with the new scheduling and the reports of Miami not wanting VT as a rival. I get Miami's "request" - I understand. But the ACC has VERY limited good football content - you have to maximize it at all costs.
3. The ACC needed to "compete" the ACCN. Even if the ultimate plan was to always go with ESPN, the ACC needed to make ESPN feel like they were competing in order to get a better deal than the one we have.
4. The ACC should have "forced" ND's hand with the football schedule 2 years ago.
5. Reports are that a few years ago, the ACC looked at "merging" with the PAC, but the ACC Presidents did not like the geographical distance. Now, the ACC would probably consider an ACC/PAC merger to be a good "survival" move - great timing, after the PAC has lost 2 of their most valuable pieces.
Up until about 10 years ago, the ACC was "on par" with the SEC/B1G, now they are way behind. I do agree with you, that given where the ACC is today, they dont have many good moves to make.
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Interesting quote by the FSU president
-- goldendomer
Aug 21, 2022 at 11:42 AM ET
goldendomer
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08/21/22 11:42 AM ET
The last time they spoke out & B12 rumors were flying, the ACC expanded 🤔**
-- Stech
Aug 21, 2022 at 07:14 PM ET
Stech
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08/21/22 07:14 PM ET
They should look at dissolving the ACC then
-- Colonel Jessup
Aug 21, 2022 at 04:23 PM ET
Colonel Jessup
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08/21/22 04:23 PM ET
I love to get in a room with the presidents'
-- Mercury
Aug 21, 2022 at 04:54 PM ET
Mercury
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08/21/22 04:54 PM ET
For the GOR it is 15 members because ND counts for that
-- HokieAl
Aug 21, 2022 at 05:20 PM ET
HokieAl
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08/21/22 05:20 PM ET
Will take 10+ votes and you can get them if
-- Colonel Jessup
Aug 21, 2022 at 05:09 PM ET
Colonel Jessup
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08/21/22 05:09 PM ET
wish some other University President would call them out
-- Mercury
Aug 21, 2022 at 03:55 PM ET
Mercury
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08/21/22 03:55 PM ET
Yep. A good reason why we don't really want them to be good again.
-- Truthahn
Aug 21, 2022 at 06:32 PM ET
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08/21/22 06:32 PM ET
UCF and USF have much better long term outlook than FSU
-- OrlandoHokie
Aug 21, 2022 at 10:15 PM ET
OrlandoHokie
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08/21/22 10:15 PM ET
UCF is a potential juggernaut
-- Millpoint
Aug 22, 2022 at 09:35 AM ET
Millpoint
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08/22/22 09:35 AM ET
First they should focus on their next coach. Norvell is not their solution
-- HokieAl
Aug 21, 2022 at 01:55 PM ET
HokieAl
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08/21/22 01:55 PM ET
"a cash cow and they are rapidly squandering the resources due to
-- 133193Hokie
Aug 21, 2022 at 02:34 PM ET
133193Hokie
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08/21/22 02:34 PM ET
I guess the bottom line is that at one time the ACC was a, if not the,
-- 133193Hokie
Aug 21, 2022 at 06:15 PM ET
133193Hokie
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08/21/22 06:15 PM ET
No doubt the seeds of the ACC's weakness occurred when it was formed in ...
-- Atlee Hokie
Aug 22, 2022 at 09:23 AM ET
Atlee Hokie
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08/22/22 09:23 AM ET
Maybe, but the jailbreak may happen toward
-- goldendomer
Aug 21, 2022 at 01:15 PM ET
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08/21/22 01:15 PM ET
You think the PAC is more stable? You think the B12 with no Network and
-- Stech
Aug 21, 2022 at 03:26 PM ET
Stech
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08/21/22 03:26 PM ET
At this point the ACC, Big XII, and Pac-12 are all equally unstable as a
-- VTHokie2000
Aug 22, 2022 at 03:28 AM ET
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08/22/22 03:28 AM ET
Only reason for any stability now is the GOR.**
-- Atlee Hokie
Aug 21, 2022 at 03:20 PM ET
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08/21/22 03:20 PM ET
ND needs to play like a power
-- MrFantastic!
Aug 21, 2022 at 02:35 PM ET
MrFantastic!
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08/21/22 02:35 PM ET
I don't understand the ND bashing here
-- HokieAl
Aug 21, 2022 at 03:09 PM ET
HokieAl
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08/21/22 03:09 PM ET
I've heard ACC TV projected to pay more in 2024 or so. Not a $30M diff.
-- Truthahn
Aug 21, 2022 at 06:42 PM ET
Truthahn
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08/21/22 06:42 PM ET
I'm not hostile to ND. However any decisions about the future by ACC ....
-- Atlee Hokie
Aug 21, 2022 at 03:58 PM ET
Atlee Hokie
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08/21/22 03:58 PM ET
54-10 with two playoffs in five years is not power?
-- TerryD
Aug 21, 2022 at 02:47 PM ET
TerryD
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08/21/22 02:47 PM ET
Results against blue bloods
-- MrFantastic!
Aug 21, 2022 at 02:52 PM ET
MrFantastic!
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08/21/22 02:52 PM ET
College football will look a lot different by then and if players become
-- manassashoo
Aug 21, 2022 at 02:14 PM ET
manassashoo
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08/21/22 02:14 PM ET
The jailbreak you refer to.......
-- 2hhoop3
Aug 21, 2022 at 01:42 PM ET
2hhoop3
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08/21/22 01:42 PM ET
Agree he’s blowing smoke. **
-- MrFantastic!
Aug 21, 2022 at 02:35 PM ET
MrFantastic!
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08/21/22 02:35 PM ET
I think you might be misinterpreting his aggressive remarks.
-- hokieZ71
Aug 21, 2022 at 01:31 PM ET
hokieZ71
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08/21/22 01:31 PM ET
Well, he has 14 years to make FSU relevant again in football. Cause the ACC
-- manassashoo
Aug 21, 2022 at 12:34 PM ET
manassashoo
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08/21/22 12:34 PM ET
There has to be a race between SEC and B1G for remaining East Coast schools
-- hokieZ71
Aug 21, 2022 at 12:33 PM ET
hokieZ71
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08/21/22 12:33 PM ET
Are both P2s just going to let the Pac 12-2 programs die on the vine?
-- Maroon Baboon
Aug 21, 2022 at 12:42 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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08/21/22 12:42 PM ET
PAC will add western schools - some combo of Org, Wash, Stan, Cal - maybe
-- 133193Hokie
Aug 21, 2022 at 02:25 PM ET
133193Hokie
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08/21/22 02:25 PM ET
No, certainly Oregon, Washington, Stanford, ND next for B1G
-- hokieZ71
Aug 21, 2022 at 01:00 PM ET
hokieZ71
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08/21/22 01:00 PM ET
After 4 straight losing seasons, just curious when the winning starts.
-- HOO86
Aug 21, 2022 at 12:31 PM ET
HOO86
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08/21/22 12:31 PM ET
UCf is 10 times better than USF.**
-- cricket77
Aug 21, 2022 at 02:18 PM ET
cricket77
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08/21/22 02:18 PM ET
Trade off of big state teams and big gameday crowd teams.
-- Truthahn
Aug 21, 2022 at 08:17 PM ET
Truthahn
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08/21/22 08:17 PM ET
That’s what they’re all saying to their Donors/Alumni/Fans, they have to or
-- Stech
Aug 21, 2022 at 12:15 PM ET
Stech
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08/21/22 12:15 PM ET
their donors/alumni and fans are a little disjointed.
-- Mercury
Aug 21, 2022 at 04:02 PM ET
Mercury
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08/21/22 04:02 PM ET
I guess I missed the quote by VT President. Please post. tia**
-- 133193Hokie
Aug 21, 2022 at 02:18 PM ET
133193Hokie
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08/21/22 02:18 PM ET
Yeah, maybe. But the fact is the crappy ACC
-- goldendomer
Aug 21, 2022 at 12:24 PM ET
goldendomer
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08/21/22 12:24 PM ET
How do you know he isn’t saying it to get the contract improved?**
-- Stech
Aug 21, 2022 at 03:14 PM ET
Stech
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08/21/22 03:14 PM ET
He can spend 14 years on it and come to the same conclusion.
-- hokieZ71
Aug 21, 2022 at 01:07 PM ET
hokieZ71
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08/21/22 01:07 PM ET
One of the ACC teams will bolt at some point. When and who is the only
-- 133193Hokie
Aug 21, 2022 at 02:20 PM ET
133193Hokie
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08/21/22 02:20 PM ET
Your prediction is 1 ACC school will leave by itself? I’ve got that right?**
-- Stech
Aug 21, 2022 at 03:18 PM ET
Stech
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08/21/22 03:18 PM ET
No. There will be a first mover school that will get the ball rolling at
-- 133193Hokie
Aug 22, 2022 at 08:04 AM ET
133193Hokie
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08/22/22 08:04 AM ET
We will see I guess. Most ACC schools (except UNC and UVA) can not
-- 133193Hokie
Aug 21, 2022 at 02:32 PM ET
133193Hokie
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08/21/22 02:32 PM ET
In ten years, who know what the ACC will be like.
-- Truthahn
Aug 22, 2022 at 02:42 PM ET
Truthahn
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08/22/22 02:42 PM ET
Survive? Sof if VT does not leave, they will have to shut down football?
-- LocalExperts
Aug 21, 2022 at 03:04 PM ET
LocalExperts
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08/21/22 03:04 PM ET
yep, it is either a mass exodus or nothing. **
-- HokieAl
Aug 21, 2022 at 02:26 PM ET
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08/21/22 02:26 PM ET