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Thanks for response......

On #1, the answer and approach COULD differ depending how Miami was viewed. If they were a must, which they probably were at the time, and they have other alternatives, which they did, it is doubtful the pound sand approach yields the desired result while giving them what they ask for with a sorry we do not have votes gets the desired result and no animosity. #2 I agree. #3 do we know they did not do that? Does it backfire if the bluff is called and result in a worse deal and a more acrimonious relationship? Yes, I realize the irony of that question with the benefit of hindsight but, I think at the time it had to at least be considered. #4 not really sure how they could have forced it. Moreover, not sure if it did not work what they are left with in terms of benefit. #5 agree that timing now is not opportune, especially if they rejected only two short years ago. It is interesting that you pick 10 years ago because that pretty much coincides with the start up of the networks. I would also contend that even then in terms of demographics it is at least debatable whether the ACC was "on par" with the SEC or B1G. I do not believe that any of the 5 things you identified, even if entirely accurate, puts the ACC in a significantly different position than they now find themselves in but, I would be happy to consider how you see that differently.
Posted: 08/21/2022 at 04:43 PM ET
(In response to this post by 133193Hokie)

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Interesting quote by the FSU president
goldendomer • 08/21/22 11:42 AM ET
The last time they spoke out & B12 rumors were flying, the ACC expanded 🤔**
Stech • 08/21/22 07:14 PM ET
They should look at dissolving the ACC then
Colonel Jessup • 08/21/22 04:23 PM ET
I love to get in a room with the presidents'
Mercury • 08/21/22 04:54 PM ET
For the GOR it is 15 members because ND counts for that
HokieAl • 08/21/22 05:20 PM ET
Will take 10+ votes and you can get them if
Colonel Jessup • 08/21/22 05:09 PM ET
It was Jim Weaver.......
2hhoop3 • 08/21/22 05:06 PM ET
wish some other University President would call them out
Mercury • 08/21/22 03:55 PM ET
Yep. A good reason why we don't really want them to be good again.
Truthahn • 08/21/22 06:32 PM ET
UCF and USF have much better long term outlook than FSU
OrlandoHokie • 08/21/22 10:15 PM ET
UCF is a potential juggernaut
Millpoint • 08/22/22 09:35 AM ET
First they should focus on their next coach. Norvell is not their solution
HokieAl • 08/21/22 01:55 PM ET
The FSU President......
2hhoop3 • 08/21/22 01:03 PM ET
"a cash cow and they are rapidly squandering the resources due to
133193Hokie • 08/21/22 02:34 PM ET
It is one thing......
2hhoop3 • 08/21/22 03:22 PM ET
to name a few
133193Hokie • 08/21/22 04:19 PM ET
Thanks for response...... ◄
2hhoop3 • 08/21/22 04:43 PM ET
I guess the bottom line is that at one time the ACC was a, if not the,
133193Hokie • 08/21/22 06:15 PM ET
I agree......
2hhoop3 • 08/21/22 07:24 PM ET
No doubt the seeds of the ACC's weakness occurred when it was formed in ...
Atlee Hokie • 08/22/22 09:23 AM ET
Maybe, but the jailbreak may happen toward
goldendomer • 08/21/22 01:15 PM ET
You think the PAC is more stable? You think the B12 with no Network and
Stech • 08/21/22 03:26 PM ET
At this point the ACC, Big XII, and Pac-12 are all equally unstable as a
VTHokie2000 • 08/22/22 03:28 AM ET
Only reason for any stability now is the GOR.**
Atlee Hokie • 08/21/22 03:20 PM ET
ND needs to play like a power
MrFantastic! • 08/21/22 02:35 PM ET
I don't understand the ND bashing here
HokieAl • 08/21/22 03:09 PM ET
I've heard ACC TV projected to pay more in 2024 or so. Not a $30M diff.
Truthahn • 08/21/22 06:42 PM ET
Not really bashing
MrFantastic! • 08/21/22 06:02 PM ET
I'm not hostile to ND. However any decisions about the future by ACC ....
Atlee Hokie • 08/21/22 03:58 PM ET
54-10 with two playoffs in five years is not power?
TerryD • 08/21/22 02:47 PM ET
Results against blue bloods
MrFantastic! • 08/21/22 02:52 PM ET
Your math is off
TerryD • 08/21/22 10:28 PM ET
Struggle with ACC teams?
TerryD • 08/21/22 10:25 PM ET
College football will look a lot different by then and if players become
manassashoo • 08/21/22 02:14 PM ET
The jailbreak you refer to.......
2hhoop3 • 08/21/22 01:42 PM ET
Agree he’s blowing smoke. **
MrFantastic! • 08/21/22 02:35 PM ET
I think you might be misinterpreting his aggressive remarks.
hokieZ71 • 08/21/22 01:31 PM ET
Well, he has 14 years to make FSU relevant again in football. Cause the ACC
manassashoo • 08/21/22 12:34 PM ET
There has to be a race between SEC and B1G for remaining East Coast schools
hokieZ71 • 08/21/22 12:33 PM ET
Are both P2s just going to let the Pac 12-2 programs die on the vine?
Maroon Baboon • 08/21/22 12:42 PM ET
PAC will add western schools - some combo of Org, Wash, Stan, Cal - maybe
133193Hokie • 08/21/22 02:25 PM ET
No, certainly Oregon, Washington, Stanford, ND next for B1G
hokieZ71 • 08/21/22 01:00 PM ET
After 4 straight losing seasons, just curious when the winning starts.
HOO86 • 08/21/22 12:31 PM ET
UCf is 10 times better than USF.**
cricket77 • 08/21/22 02:18 PM ET
I like both USF and UCF
HOO86 • 08/21/22 07:11 PM ET
This gets my vote.**
Thumper • 08/21/22 10:04 PM ET
Trade off of big state teams and big gameday crowd teams.
Truthahn • 08/21/22 08:17 PM ET
That’s what they’re all saying to their Donors/Alumni/Fans, they have to or
Stech • 08/21/22 12:15 PM ET
their donors/alumni and fans are a little disjointed.
Mercury • 08/21/22 04:02 PM ET
I guess I missed the quote by VT President. Please post. tia**
133193Hokie • 08/21/22 02:18 PM ET
Yeah, maybe. But the fact is the crappy ACC
goldendomer • 08/21/22 12:24 PM ET
How do you know he isn’t saying it to get the contract improved?**
Stech • 08/21/22 03:14 PM ET
He can spend 14 years on it and come to the same conclusion.
hokieZ71 • 08/21/22 01:07 PM ET
One of the ACC teams will bolt at some point. When and who is the only
133193Hokie • 08/21/22 02:20 PM ET
Your prediction is 1 ACC school will leave by itself? I’ve got that right?**
Stech • 08/21/22 03:18 PM ET
No. There will be a first mover school that will get the ball rolling at
133193Hokie • 08/22/22 08:04 AM ET
No they won't.
hokieZ71 • 08/21/22 02:25 PM ET
We will see I guess. Most ACC schools (except UNC and UVA) can not
133193Hokie • 08/21/22 02:32 PM ET
In ten years, who know what the ACC will be like.
Truthahn • 08/22/22 02:42 PM ET
Survive? Sof if VT does not leave, they will have to shut down football?
LocalExperts • 08/21/22 03:04 PM ET
yep, it is either a mass exodus or nothing. **
HokieAl • 08/21/22 02:26 PM ET