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I think some are missing something here. If the ACC loses FSU/CU,

it won't matter which conference they go too. The ACC stands to lose money in the guaranteed playoff look in. They could easily lose $5M per school, per year. (that number is just a guess). So, from where I'm sitting, the ACC schools are already throwing money at FSU/CU, but when they leave, they will get nothing for it. Relying on the GOR and the courts is not a good business model. Maybe the ACC wins, maybe they don't, but what is it that you actually win? A shotgun marriage? A better media deal? More playoff spots? The ability to play games against the non mag 7? A ND game every blue moon? IMHO the P5 will never come back. Also, IMHO, as long as you have the non mag 7, it will be difficult to get the ratings you need in both the media, and in the polls. When the B12 added the 3 G5's and BYU, Things were cool from my fans perspective. Lets be clear, Arizona and Colorado were the only schools happy to join the B12 - Utah and ASU I would put in the category of any school in the Mag 7. They do not want to be in the B12, they want what the P2 has. Frankly, I'd be way OK to send the ACC Utah and ASU. From my misplaced fans perspective, they just do not rise to the level of a B12 school. I used to be excited of possibly getting some schools from the ACC, but unless they bring the value closer to the P2, I'd rather they stay where they are. Do you guys REALLY want FSU now? Do you really think you will get P2 money if you win the lawsuit? Where is the money, and where is it coming from? Where does either of our conferences get the value to possibly double the conference payout? The B12 will be good if the ACC stays together. We will have solid and fun football, we will be in the playoffs, and we will have a premier basketball league. So, we're good. Are you?
Posted: 07/19/2024 at 09:02 AM ET
(In response to this post by 33laszlo99)

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Here's my issue with any rumors of ANY ACC schools going to the BigXII
Maroon Baboon 07/18/24 03:10 PM ET
it's selling equity, not really borrowing, normally
MrBayAreaHokie 07/19/24 01:52 PM ET
I'd imagine it would have to be structured
Vippie1 07/20/24 08:37 AM ET
What if a large portion of PE in the B12 was used to start a B12
Big12 guy 07/20/24 09:45 AM ET
I think establishing a Big 12 network is going to be a must.
VTCALS72 07/20/24 11:55 AM ET
Using PE funds.......
2hhoop3 07/20/24 10:03 AM ET
i do not disagree with you, but it does create a possible exit strategy
Big12 guy 07/20/24 01:37 PM ET
I’m not sure exactly what’s going on but chatter has been escalating
PFHokie 07/19/24 09:35 AM ET
Standing pat won’t be an option if ESPN doesn’t extend the media rights
WBGV 07/19/24 11:23 AM ET
we have no way of knowing what is going on.**
VTCALS72 07/19/24 12:31 PM ET
before any ACC team would go to the Big12
Vippie1 07/19/24 09:19 AM ET
I found a site that had a 4 year attendance + ranking of teams from 19-22
VTCALS72 07/19/24 12:51 PM ET
I would trade UVA-Wise for BC**
VPI_1998 07/19/24 07:52 PM ET
Concur.**
Atlee Hokie 07/20/24 01:06 PM ET
My issue is that it’s a RUMOR, sports media talking heads, shut up until…
ombandit 07/19/24 06:39 AM ET
Absolutely! Slow time of the year for real sports news, so...**
MDHokie79 07/19/24 01:30 PM ET
How does joining 16 other teams with
HokieKick`nBack 07/19/24 06:13 AM ET
ACC does not need to throw more money at Clem & F$U.
Atlee Hokie 07/20/24 01:14 PM ET
Throwing more money......
2hhoop3 07/20/24 01:19 PM ET
"throw more money to fsu and clem. ?? Whose money?
33laszlo99 07/19/24 08:31 AM ET
I think some are missing something here. If the ACC loses FSU/CU,
Big12 guy 07/19/24 09:02 AM ET
Oh come on, look in the mirror
VTCALS72 07/19/24 01:03 PM ET
I disagree 100%. With respect, Miami, Louisville, UNC?, VT, and
Big12 guy 07/19/24 01:32 PM ET
Do you acknowledge the fact the Big 12, without it's bluebloods has not
VTCALS72 07/19/24 09:13 PM ET
I'm playing defense here. **
Big12 guy 07/19/24 11:23 PM ET
I don't see it that way at all
VTCALS72 07/20/24 08:56 AM ET
The thing is, I don't think that the B12 is better than the ACC minus
Big12 guy 07/20/24 09:37 AM ET
You are still missing the point I am trying to make
VTCALS72 07/20/24 11:51 AM ET
What has FSU done other than last year?
cvillehokie92 07/19/24 02:09 PM ET
Exactly.
VPI 1924 07/19/24 03:21 PM ET
They won it all in 2014. I don't remember reading how far back
Big12 guy 07/19/24 02:39 PM ET
Premier basketball league? ACC, Big East, and SEC says 'hold my beer'.**
manassashoo 07/19/24 09:17 AM ET
Well - I would say by any metric, the BigXII has been a better league than
VPI_1998 07/19/24 05:34 PM ET
He said “a” premier basketball conference. Not “the” premier conference
hokieZ71 07/19/24 09:39 AM ET
That my dear sir, is fan banter, and I love it. Where you lose me is
Big12 guy 07/19/24 09:26 AM ET
Not throw more money at F$U and CU, but throw more money at the schools...
EDGEMAN 07/19/24 06:30 AM ET
How many yahoos does he have posting this crap?
EDGEMAN 07/19/24 04:48 AM ET
Brent Yormark fear mongers and tries to create realities out of it. He uses
Stech 07/18/24 06:25 PM ET
Everybody Headed to the Big-12 is Click-Bait
WarHog38 07/18/24 03:57 PM ET
I have a hard time understanding why ESPN would not continue the contract
VTCALS72 07/19/24 09:40 AM ET
I Think Numbers Have Been Crunched By Accountants
WarHog38 07/19/24 01:34 PM ET
Maybe ESPN (or Disney or now the NFL) is looking at it simply as which
VTHokie2000 07/19/24 12:40 PM ET
I think ESPN has a deadline of Feb. 2025 to opt in to the 2027-36 years.
hokieZ71 07/18/24 05:22 PM ET
Jim Phillips Created That February, 2025, Deadline For ESPN to Re-Sign
WarHog38 07/18/24 06:18 PM ET
Texas and OU announced June 2021 they were joining the SEC in July 2024
hokieZ71 07/18/24 06:23 PM ET
If I remember correctly
dayooper 07/18/24 09:02 PM ET
yes, 2025 originally. ESPN kicked in $100M (savings from LHN) to move it
daveinop 07/19/24 07:48 AM ET
It Was Brett Yormark Becoming Big-12 Commissioner on August 1, 2022
WarHog38 07/18/24 10:39 PM ET
True. And ESPN rewarded the Big XII with a contract for allowing it.**
hokieZ71 07/18/24 09:09 PM ET
I believe they also had to pay $100M or so for 1 year early exit.**
hokieball 07/18/24 10:31 PM ET
Texas & Oklahoma Were Both Looking At a Clear Cut Date to End Media Deals
WarHog38 07/18/24 06:45 PM ET
exactly, the Big 12 community plays that alot
1947Sunbowl 07/18/24 05:11 PM ET
It's a HUGE gamble.
CoolJCPA 07/18/24 03:27 PM ET
So there isn’t much equity to begin with?
Hokie1992 07/19/24 08:23 AM ET
Eliminates future big boom for the teams in the league. Big risk.
mjfhokie 07/18/24 05:25 PM ET
A good post. The P2 however, put many in a position to either
Big12 guy 07/18/24 03:50 PM ET