Eliminates future big boom for the teams in the league. Big risk.
The payback to the PE firm is the expectancy of a Big future increase in revenue - which goes directly to the PE firm - NOT the schools. If successful, the schools in the league will end up with something similar to the current ACC contract. That is a very long contract term (think decades) with future earnings per team falling behind the conferences that did not have PE and are eligible for full payments. It is very reasonable to assume that the annual PE take of the overall annual conference earnings would be several million per team each year in the future. After all the future value of TV revenue does not increase for a conference because the there was private equity funding was used 10 or 20 years before.
Not to mention, the current ACC GOR will be much less restrictive than a GOR required of a PE firm is investing in a conference. Teams would need to sign a GOR that would span the length of the contract (i.e. decades) with even more obtuse penalties and no loopholes. So much for Big 12 being a stepping stone to SEC or BIG (which is still FSU's, Clemson's, and others desired out come and end game).
The ACC risked possible future earnings increases for a roll of the dice on the ACC Network revenue and is stuck with a bad contract over the final 15 years of a 25 year GOR. A PE firm is rolling dice on a conference with the expectations that extra money up front over a 3-5 year period will turn into increased revenue over an even longer that 25 year term. Private equity knows the risk and will make the conference pay for it with a long contract period. That is the only way they know they will be successful since there is no hard asset to sell at the end.
** Edited by mjfhokie at 7/18/2024, 5:26:43 PM
Thread Replies (55)
Here's my issue with any rumors of ANY ACC schools going to the BigXII
-- Maroon Baboon
Jul 18, 2024 at 03:10 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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07/18/24 03:10 PM ET
it's selling equity, not really borrowing, normally
-- MrBayAreaHokie
Jul 19, 2024 at 01:52 PM ET
MrBayAreaHokie
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07/19/24 01:52 PM ET
I'd imagine it would have to be structured
-- Vippie1
Jul 20, 2024 at 08:37 AM ET
Vippie1
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07/20/24 08:37 AM ET
What if a large portion of PE in the B12 was used to start a B12
-- Big12 guy
Jul 20, 2024 at 09:45 AM ET
Big12 guy
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07/20/24 09:45 AM ET
I think establishing a Big 12 network is going to be a must.
-- VTCALS72
Jul 20, 2024 at 11:55 AM ET
VTCALS72
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07/20/24 11:55 AM ET
i do not disagree with you, but it does create a possible exit strategy
-- Big12 guy
Jul 20, 2024 at 01:37 PM ET
Big12 guy
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07/20/24 01:37 PM ET
I’m not sure exactly what’s going on but chatter has been escalating
-- PFHokie
Jul 19, 2024 at 09:35 AM ET
PFHokie
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07/19/24 09:35 AM ET
Standing pat won’t be an option if ESPN doesn’t extend the media rights
-- WBGV
Jul 19, 2024 at 11:23 AM ET
WBGV
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07/19/24 11:23 AM ET
we have no way of knowing what is going on.**
-- VTCALS72
Jul 19, 2024 at 12:31 PM ET
VTCALS72
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07/19/24 12:31 PM ET
before any ACC team would go to the Big12
-- Vippie1
Jul 19, 2024 at 09:19 AM ET
Vippie1
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07/19/24 09:19 AM ET
I found a site that had a 4 year attendance + ranking of teams from 19-22
-- VTCALS72
Jul 19, 2024 at 12:51 PM ET
VTCALS72
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07/19/24 12:51 PM ET
I would trade UVA-Wise for BC**
-- VPI_1998
Jul 19, 2024 at 07:52 PM ET
VPI_1998
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07/19/24 07:52 PM ET
My issue is that it’s a RUMOR, sports media talking heads, shut up until…
-- ombandit
Jul 19, 2024 at 06:39 AM ET
ombandit
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07/19/24 06:39 AM ET
Absolutely! Slow time of the year for real sports news, so...**
-- MDHokie79
Jul 19, 2024 at 01:30 PM ET
MDHokie79
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07/19/24 01:30 PM ET
How does joining 16 other teams with
-- HokieKick`nBack
Jul 19, 2024 at 06:13 AM ET
HokieKick`nBack
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07/19/24 06:13 AM ET
ACC does not need to throw more money at Clem & F$U.
-- Atlee Hokie
Jul 20, 2024 at 01:14 PM ET
Atlee Hokie
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07/20/24 01:14 PM ET
"throw more money to fsu and clem. ?? Whose money?
-- 33laszlo99
Jul 19, 2024 at 08:31 AM ET
33laszlo99
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07/19/24 08:31 AM ET
I think some are missing something here. If the ACC loses FSU/CU,
-- Big12 guy
Jul 19, 2024 at 09:02 AM ET
Big12 guy
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07/19/24 09:02 AM ET
Oh come on, look in the mirror
-- VTCALS72
Jul 19, 2024 at 01:03 PM ET
VTCALS72
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07/19/24 01:03 PM ET
I disagree 100%. With respect, Miami, Louisville, UNC?, VT, and
-- Big12 guy
Jul 19, 2024 at 01:32 PM ET
Big12 guy
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07/19/24 01:32 PM ET
Do you acknowledge the fact the Big 12, without it's bluebloods has not
-- VTCALS72
Jul 19, 2024 at 09:13 PM ET
VTCALS72
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07/19/24 09:13 PM ET
I'm playing defense here. **
-- Big12 guy
Jul 19, 2024 at 11:23 PM ET
Big12 guy
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07/19/24 11:23 PM ET
I don't see it that way at all
-- VTCALS72
Jul 20, 2024 at 08:56 AM ET
VTCALS72
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07/20/24 08:56 AM ET
The thing is, I don't think that the B12 is better than the ACC minus
-- Big12 guy
Jul 20, 2024 at 09:37 AM ET
Big12 guy
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07/20/24 09:37 AM ET
You are still missing the point I am trying to make
-- VTCALS72
Jul 20, 2024 at 11:51 AM ET
VTCALS72
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07/20/24 11:51 AM ET
What has FSU done other than last year?
-- cvillehokie92
Jul 19, 2024 at 02:09 PM ET
cvillehokie92
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07/19/24 02:09 PM ET
They won it all in 2014. I don't remember reading how far back
-- Big12 guy
Jul 19, 2024 at 02:39 PM ET
Big12 guy
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07/19/24 02:39 PM ET
Premier basketball league? ACC, Big East, and SEC says 'hold my beer'.**
-- manassashoo
Jul 19, 2024 at 09:17 AM ET
manassashoo
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07/19/24 09:17 AM ET
Well - I would say by any metric, the BigXII has been a better league than
-- VPI_1998
Jul 19, 2024 at 05:34 PM ET
VPI_1998
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07/19/24 05:34 PM ET
He said “a” premier basketball conference. Not “the” premier conference
-- hokieZ71
Jul 19, 2024 at 09:39 AM ET
hokieZ71
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07/19/24 09:39 AM ET
That my dear sir, is fan banter, and I love it. Where you lose me is
-- Big12 guy
Jul 19, 2024 at 09:26 AM ET
Big12 guy
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07/19/24 09:26 AM ET
Not throw more money at F$U and CU, but throw more money at the schools...
-- EDGEMAN
Jul 19, 2024 at 06:30 AM ET
EDGEMAN
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07/19/24 06:30 AM ET
How many yahoos does he have posting this crap?
-- EDGEMAN
Jul 19, 2024 at 04:48 AM ET
EDGEMAN
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07/19/24 04:48 AM ET
Brent Yormark fear mongers and tries to create realities out of it. He uses
-- Stech
Jul 18, 2024 at 06:25 PM ET
Stech
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07/18/24 06:25 PM ET
Everybody Headed to the Big-12 is Click-Bait
-- WarHog38
Jul 18, 2024 at 03:57 PM ET
WarHog38
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07/18/24 03:57 PM ET
I have a hard time understanding why ESPN would not continue the contract
-- VTCALS72
Jul 19, 2024 at 09:40 AM ET
VTCALS72
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07/19/24 09:40 AM ET
I Think Numbers Have Been Crunched By Accountants
-- WarHog38
Jul 19, 2024 at 01:34 PM ET
WarHog38
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07/19/24 01:34 PM ET
Maybe ESPN (or Disney or now the NFL) is looking at it simply as which
-- VTHokie2000
Jul 19, 2024 at 12:40 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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07/19/24 12:40 PM ET
I think ESPN has a deadline of Feb. 2025 to opt in to the 2027-36 years.
-- hokieZ71
Jul 18, 2024 at 05:22 PM ET
hokieZ71
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07/18/24 05:22 PM ET
Jim Phillips Created That February, 2025, Deadline For ESPN to Re-Sign
-- WarHog38
Jul 18, 2024 at 06:18 PM ET
WarHog38
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07/18/24 06:18 PM ET
Texas and OU announced June 2021 they were joining the SEC in July 2024
-- hokieZ71
Jul 18, 2024 at 06:23 PM ET
hokieZ71
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07/18/24 06:23 PM ET
yes, 2025 originally. ESPN kicked in $100M (savings from LHN) to move it
-- daveinop
Jul 19, 2024 at 07:48 AM ET
daveinop
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07/19/24 07:48 AM ET
It Was Brett Yormark Becoming Big-12 Commissioner on August 1, 2022
-- WarHog38
Jul 18, 2024 at 10:39 PM ET
WarHog38
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07/18/24 10:39 PM ET
True. And ESPN rewarded the Big XII with a contract for allowing it.**
-- hokieZ71
Jul 18, 2024 at 09:09 PM ET
hokieZ71
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07/18/24 09:09 PM ET
I believe they also had to pay $100M or so for 1 year early exit.**
-- hokieball
Jul 18, 2024 at 10:31 PM ET
hokieball
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07/18/24 10:31 PM ET
Texas & Oklahoma Were Both Looking At a Clear Cut Date to End Media Deals
-- WarHog38
Jul 18, 2024 at 06:45 PM ET
WarHog38
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07/18/24 06:45 PM ET
exactly, the Big 12 community plays that alot
-- 1947Sunbowl
Jul 18, 2024 at 05:11 PM ET
1947Sunbowl
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07/18/24 05:11 PM ET
So there isn’t much equity to begin with?
-- Hokie1992
Jul 19, 2024 at 08:23 AM ET
Hokie1992
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07/19/24 08:23 AM ET
Eliminates future big boom for the teams in the league. Big risk.
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-- mjfhokie
Jul 18, 2024 at 05:25 PM ET
mjfhokie
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07/18/24 05:25 PM ET
A good post. The P2 however, put many in a position to either
-- Big12 guy
Jul 18, 2024 at 03:50 PM ET
Big12 guy
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07/18/24 03:50 PM ET