You got me with Texas and Ou. SMH - You are right, FSU, Clemson, and even
VT would not have been excited if the ACC invited the 4 newbies that the B12 did - it's why they are part of the B12, not the ACC. The PAC thing just happened, but the B12 offered a landing spot, and they jumped on it. None of the schools in the 12 will get one dime more from them joining - something the teams in the ACC would never do.
The ACC is a good conference, had a good contract - right up to the point of the Texas and OU announcement, and then the USCLA and Big contract announcement. It's still a good contract, but I think the salt in the wound was that the B12 negotiated a contract that was comparable to the ACC's (reported, as I haven't seen the fine print).
The announcement of the B12 contract was the moment that FSU, and the mag 7 blew their gasket, and all of a sudden became underpaid (in the mag 7's opinion). Now, 1/2 the conference wants to leave, or kick out members, and they are measuring their things against the rest of the conference.
The solution was right there in front of you guys, and my first post ever on this board was to discuss the PAC ACC merger. You guys didn't want the teams left over in hateful 8, you didn't want the 4 that were added, and you didn't want those left behind in the PAC. Now there is post after post on this board wanting to poach the B12. I can't make this up, it's what happened.
The ACC still has a good conference. It just appears that some have "the thing" envy, and covet thy neighbor's media contract. Again the ACC has a REALLY good conference, just maybe not quite as good as some think. It's better than the B12, I'll admit that straight off, but lose your top two football brands, and you are drinking beer at the truck stop with the B12 guys. Our party is more fun now that Texas is gone, we can get back to playing really good college ball, and let the P2 worry about earning all that money.
Thread Replies (44)
No let fsu go collect their 500 plus millions
-- Mercury
Aug 10, 2023 at 09:19 PM ET
Mercury
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08/10/23 09:19 PM ET
For the umpteenth time we can’t take big 12 teams they are ina. GOR!!!!**
-- HokieJamie
Aug 10, 2023 at 09:13 PM ET
HokieJamie
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08/10/23 09:13 PM ET
Even if they weren't in a GOR I don't think it would be an option
-- xx97
Aug 10, 2023 at 09:16 PM ET
xx97
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08/10/23 09:16 PM ET
That’s why serious negotiations are happening
-- Hokie1992
Aug 11, 2023 at 06:57 AM ET
Hokie1992
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08/11/23 06:57 AM ET
I don't consider becoming the new G5 a bright future, but your point stands**
-- HokieNoVA
Aug 10, 2023 at 11:09 PM ET
HokieNoVA
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08/10/23 11:09 PM ET
It's not relative to the SEC and B1G. It's relative to everyone else**
-- xx97
Aug 10, 2023 at 11:22 PM ET
xx97
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08/10/23 11:22 PM ET
The ACC is screwed then because no B12 schools are leaving for the ACC**
-- xx97
Aug 10, 2023 at 09:09 PM ET
xx97
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08/10/23 09:09 PM ET
Why not? If the ACC can offer more money, which they should
-- HokiePail
Aug 10, 2023 at 09:14 PM ET
HokiePail
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08/10/23 09:14 PM ET
ACC is unstable and can't offer more money
-- xx97
Aug 10, 2023 at 09:18 PM ET
xx97
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08/10/23 09:18 PM ET
Don't believe the Big 12 is better in basketball. They re
-- HokiePail
Aug 10, 2023 at 09:22 PM ET
HokiePail
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08/10/23 09:22 PM ET
No, the B12 is the best basketball conference in the country
-- xx97
Aug 10, 2023 at 09:27 PM ET
xx97
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08/10/23 09:27 PM ET
As I have to tell my 10 year old:
-- Brother Griswold
Aug 11, 2023 at 08:24 AM ET
Brother Griswold
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08/11/23 08:24 AM ET
Duke and UNC? UVA? Louisville? FSU and Syracuse?
-- Hardcore_Hokie
Aug 11, 2023 at 08:05 AM ET
Hardcore_Hokie
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08/11/23 08:05 AM ET
I would agree with that, and I'm a basketball nut. The Big East and
-- Big12 guy
Aug 11, 2023 at 08:34 AM ET
Big12 guy
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08/11/23 08:34 AM ET
A third bite at the apple for WVU, and the second bite at the apple for the
-- Big12 guy
Aug 10, 2023 at 06:48 PM ET
Big12 guy
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08/10/23 06:48 PM ET
No schools want to leave your conference???
-- jesuisvtguy
Aug 10, 2023 at 08:13 PM ET
jesuisvtguy
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08/10/23 08:13 PM ET
You got me with Texas and Ou. SMH - You are right, FSU, Clemson, and even
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-- Big12 guy
Aug 10, 2023 at 08:54 PM ET
Big12 guy
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08/10/23 08:54 PM ET
You keep saying the ACC "didn't want" all these schools
-- cburgroop
Aug 11, 2023 at 06:33 AM ET
cburgroop
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08/11/23 06:33 AM ET
Then why do some want them now? **
-- Big12 guy
Aug 11, 2023 at 08:16 AM ET
Big12 guy
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08/11/23 08:16 AM ET
The ACC likely would’ve taken some of them if the $$$ was there
-- cburgroop
Aug 11, 2023 at 12:06 PM ET
cburgroop
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08/11/23 12:06 PM ET
So the money is different now? it goes to the bigger picture. You guys
-- Big12 guy
Aug 11, 2023 at 12:27 PM ET
Big12 guy
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08/11/23 12:27 PM ET
ACC’s leadership has always been doomed to fail.
-- hokieZ71
Aug 10, 2023 at 07:24 PM ET
hokieZ71
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08/10/23 07:24 PM ET
Well, we had Texas, so i get it. **
-- Big12 guy
Aug 10, 2023 at 08:56 PM ET
Big12 guy
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08/10/23 08:56 PM ET
Even if the ACC could cherry pick the B12 in 2031, still won't be enough.
-- Maroon Baboon
Aug 10, 2023 at 06:10 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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08/10/23 06:10 PM ET
The ACC is screwed without a new TV deal closing the financial gap, and
-- corvt2000
Aug 10, 2023 at 05:45 PM ET
corvt2000
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08/10/23 05:45 PM ET
I don't think it is anything more than a remote possibility
-- VTCALS72
Aug 10, 2023 at 06:22 PM ET
VTCALS72
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08/10/23 06:22 PM ET
I think the non P2 will most definitely compete. Not many out here
-- Big12 guy
Aug 10, 2023 at 07:29 PM ET
Big12 guy
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08/10/23 07:29 PM ET
To me it is all about the exposure and promotion of the unaligned
-- VTCALS72
Aug 10, 2023 at 07:52 PM ET
VTCALS72
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08/10/23 07:52 PM ET
The Texas and USC moves were announced before they finally
-- Big12 guy
Aug 10, 2023 at 08:25 PM ET
Big12 guy
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08/10/23 08:25 PM ET
My reasoning, the P2 won't share any playoff $$$
-- VTCALS72
Aug 10, 2023 at 08:45 PM ET
VTCALS72
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08/10/23 08:45 PM ET
That will be the nail in the coffin, and we will have a different league. **
-- Big12 guy
Aug 11, 2023 at 08:17 AM ET
Big12 guy
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08/11/23 08:17 AM ET
Agree but that is what I see coming and has been the plan all along**
-- VTCALS72
Aug 11, 2023 at 08:28 AM ET
VTCALS72
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08/11/23 08:28 AM ET
There will always be college football on. i'll watch the MAC - those
-- Big12 guy
Aug 11, 2023 at 09:21 AM ET
Big12 guy
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08/11/23 09:21 AM ET
Why would Big 12 schools want to join the ACC just before the ACC's GOR
-- wwhokie1
Aug 10, 2023 at 05:45 PM ET
wwhokie1
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08/10/23 05:45 PM ET
"No one wants to leave the Big 12 and have to turn around a few
-- seekoHoG
Aug 10, 2023 at 07:22 PM ET
seekoHoG
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08/10/23 07:22 PM ET
I don't think Colorado really "wanted" to return to the B12
-- xx97
Aug 10, 2023 at 09:11 PM ET
xx97
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08/10/23 09:11 PM ET
Colorado left because of Texas and the instability in the conference when
-- Big12 guy
Aug 11, 2023 at 10:40 AM ET
Big12 guy
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08/11/23 10:40 AM ET
Then the future of the ACC is over
-- Jasonh
Aug 10, 2023 at 05:51 PM ET
Jasonh
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08/10/23 05:51 PM ET