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You got me with Texas and Ou. SMH - You are right, FSU, Clemson, and even

VT would not have been excited if the ACC invited the 4 newbies that the B12 did - it's why they are part of the B12, not the ACC. The PAC thing just happened, but the B12 offered a landing spot, and they jumped on it. None of the schools in the 12 will get one dime more from them joining - something the teams in the ACC would never do. The ACC is a good conference, had a good contract - right up to the point of the Texas and OU announcement, and then the USCLA and Big contract announcement. It's still a good contract, but I think the salt in the wound was that the B12 negotiated a contract that was comparable to the ACC's (reported, as I haven't seen the fine print). The announcement of the B12 contract was the moment that FSU, and the mag 7 blew their gasket, and all of a sudden became underpaid (in the mag 7's opinion). Now, 1/2 the conference wants to leave, or kick out members, and they are measuring their things against the rest of the conference. The solution was right there in front of you guys, and my first post ever on this board was to discuss the PAC ACC merger. You guys didn't want the teams left over in hateful 8, you didn't want the 4 that were added, and you didn't want those left behind in the PAC. Now there is post after post on this board wanting to poach the B12. I can't make this up, it's what happened. The ACC still has a good conference. It just appears that some have "the thing" envy, and covet thy neighbor's media contract. Again the ACC has a REALLY good conference, just maybe not quite as good as some think. It's better than the B12, I'll admit that straight off, but lose your top two football brands, and you are drinking beer at the truck stop with the B12 guys. Our party is more fun now that Texas is gone, we can get back to playing really good college ball, and let the P2 worry about earning all that money.
Posted: 08/10/2023 at 08:54 PM ET
(In response to this post by jesuisvtguy)

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The best option
Jasonh 08/10/23 05:29 PM ET
No let fsu go collect their 500 plus millions
Mercury 08/10/23 09:19 PM ET
For the umpteenth time we can’t take big 12 teams they are ina. GOR!!!!**
HokieJamie 08/10/23 09:13 PM ET
Even if they weren't in a GOR I don't think it would be an option
xx97 08/10/23 09:16 PM ET
That’s why serious negotiations are happening
Hokie1992 08/11/23 06:57 AM ET
I don't consider becoming the new G5 a bright future, but your point stands**
HokieNoVA 08/10/23 11:09 PM ET
It's not relative to the SEC and B1G. It's relative to everyone else**
xx97 08/10/23 11:22 PM ET
That too**
HokieJamie 08/10/23 09:28 PM ET
The ACC is screwed then because no B12 schools are leaving for the ACC**
xx97 08/10/23 09:09 PM ET
Why not? If the ACC can offer more money, which they should
HokiePail 08/10/23 09:14 PM ET
ACC is unstable and can't offer more money
xx97 08/10/23 09:18 PM ET
Don't believe the Big 12 is better in basketball. They re
HokiePail 08/10/23 09:22 PM ET
No, the B12 is the best basketball conference in the country
xx97 08/10/23 09:27 PM ET
As I have to tell my 10 year old:
Brother Griswold 08/11/23 08:24 AM ET
Duke and UNC? UVA? Louisville? FSU and Syracuse?
Hardcore_Hokie 08/11/23 08:05 AM ET
I would agree with that, and I'm a basketball nut. The Big East and
Big12 guy 08/11/23 08:34 AM ET
Watch this**
Hardcore_Hokie 08/11/23 09:20 AM ET
That was cool. **
Big12 guy 08/11/23 10:00 AM ET
Good Luck in 2030
WarHog38 08/10/23 07:39 PM ET
A third bite at the apple for WVU, and the second bite at the apple for the
Big12 guy 08/10/23 06:48 PM ET
No schools want to leave your conference???
jesuisvtguy 08/10/23 08:13 PM ET
You got me with Texas and Ou. SMH - You are right, FSU, Clemson, and even
Big12 guy 08/10/23 08:54 PM ET
You keep saying the ACC "didn't want" all these schools
cburgroop 08/11/23 06:33 AM ET
Then why do some want them now? **
Big12 guy 08/11/23 08:16 AM ET
The ACC likely would’ve taken some of them if the $$$ was there
cburgroop 08/11/23 12:06 PM ET
So the money is different now? it goes to the bigger picture. You guys
Big12 guy 08/11/23 12:27 PM ET
ACC’s leadership has always been doomed to fail.
hokieZ71 08/10/23 07:24 PM ET
Well, we had Texas, so i get it. **
Big12 guy 08/10/23 08:56 PM ET
Even if the ACC could cherry pick the B12 in 2031, still won't be enough.
Maroon Baboon 08/10/23 06:10 PM ET
The ACC is screwed without a new TV deal closing the financial gap, and
corvt2000 08/10/23 05:45 PM ET
I don't think it is anything more than a remote possibility
VTCALS72 08/10/23 06:22 PM ET
I think the non P2 will most definitely compete. Not many out here
Big12 guy 08/10/23 07:29 PM ET
To me it is all about the exposure and promotion of the unaligned
VTCALS72 08/10/23 07:52 PM ET
The Texas and USC moves were announced before they finally
Big12 guy 08/10/23 08:25 PM ET
My reasoning, the P2 won't share any playoff $$$
VTCALS72 08/10/23 08:45 PM ET
That will be the nail in the coffin, and we will have a different league. **
Big12 guy 08/11/23 08:17 AM ET
Agree but that is what I see coming and has been the plan all along**
VTCALS72 08/11/23 08:28 AM ET
There will always be college football on. i'll watch the MAC - those
Big12 guy 08/11/23 09:21 AM ET
Me too,
VTCALS72 08/11/23 09:27 AM ET
Why would Big 12 schools want to join the ACC just before the ACC's GOR
wwhokie1 08/10/23 05:45 PM ET
"No one wants to leave the Big 12 and have to turn around a few
seekoHoG 08/10/23 07:22 PM ET
I don't think Colorado really "wanted" to return to the B12
xx97 08/10/23 09:11 PM ET
Colorado left because of Texas and the instability in the conference when
Big12 guy 08/11/23 10:40 AM ET
Well said. **
Millpoint 08/10/23 06:14 PM ET
Then the future of the ACC is over
Jasonh 08/10/23 05:51 PM ET