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VTHokie2000
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Could Indiana still have "overachieved" without the Big Ten money though?

Remember Indiana started its "investment" on the football program about 15 years ago with its various major projects. Without the Big Ten money to help, could those projects still have come to fruition? If these major projects never existed, then would Indiana have been in the position (aka a potential attractive destination) to hire Cignetti away from JMU? I have started to come to the conclusion that these type of discussion may really be a chicken and egg type discussion because it is likely you can't have one without the other. At least college athletics hasn't evolved like the NFL or likely the other major pro leagues who have a tendency to not make huge investments in their (practice) facilities. So when you say "Indiana gave every single school the roadmap," I'm not sure you can be as dismissive about the P2 money as you seem to be in the post. Otherwise, we should start to see Indiana-like schools from non-P2 conferences make somewhat regular deep runs in the FBS Playoffs going forward. I think even you would agree that is unlikely to happen because FBS Playoffs will likely be dominated by the P2s going forward. If a non-P2 school makes a deep run, then it will likely be a blue blood (i.e. Miami, FSU, etc.) or a perceived blue blood (i.e. Clemson) with an established pedigree.
Posted: 02/04/2026 at 06:23 PM ET
(In response to this post by Big12 guy)

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Do you feel that this is a trial run for many programs not in the P2?
The_VT_Rock 02/04/26 03:33 PM ET
It’s a semi open race for a few spots
RandomAsianGuy 02/04/26 11:04 PM ET
This entire discussion assumes no govenment interference
Vippie1 02/05/26 09:36 AM ET
Even if the non-P2s are pushed to the edge, Congress may still decide to
VTHokie2000 02/05/26 10:18 AM ET
yep the P2 could still do their own thing but
Vippie1 02/05/26 11:03 AM ET
I don't disagree that having antitrust exemption makes the situation much
VTHokie2000 02/05/26 11:41 AM ET
You dont go in tentative All the way,
1947Sunbowl 02/04/26 07:48 PM ET
Exactly. Whatever decision VT makes in terms of which path at the fork in
VTHokie2000 02/04/26 11:24 PM ET
In my humble opinion, I think we all put
Big12 guy 02/04/26 04:52 PM ET
Agreed - particularly in the ACC
VT ChemE 1986 02/05/26 12:31 PM ET
But for how long will those top teams want to remain in the ACC though?
VTHokie2000 02/05/26 02:40 PM ET
Could Indiana still have "overachieved" without the Big Ten money though?
VTHokie2000 02/04/26 06:23 PM ET
You’re leaving out IU’s Mark Cuban money. Also, billionaire Ken Griffin
HokieNeal 02/07/26 12:59 PM ET
I found another article that talked about the upgrades Indiana did to the
VTHokie2000 02/08/26 10:36 PM ET
I believe Cuban's money is more recent though. My post was referring to
VTHokie2000 02/08/26 10:24 PM ET
When you break down the players, I think the answer
Big12 guy 02/04/26 07:02 PM ET
Could Indiana have hired Cignetti though without the Big Ten money to pay
VTHokie2000 02/04/26 08:35 PM ET
Wait. You guys just paid big money to hire a coach without P2
Big12 guy 02/04/26 08:43 PM ET
A reason VT and UNC made the coaching decisions is because they are trying
VTHokie2000 02/04/26 11:12 PM ET
I think some are trying to get in the P2...
The_VT_Rock 02/04/26 05:03 PM ET
I can only speak for some in the B12. they
Big12 guy 02/04/26 05:16 PM ET