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interesting question; one comment Pac 12 will not be a Power 4 conference

Power 4 branding for Cal and Stanford is big for them. Perception-wide. I dont know if Cal and Stanford want to be in a conference such as Fresno State, Boise State.
Posted: 09/12/2024 at 08:27 PM ET
(In response to this post by Stech)

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San Diego State, Colorado State, Fresno State, and Boise State join PAC-12
HOO86 09/12/24 02:14 PM ET
Hmmm, an all state conference.**
IB4TECH 09/13/24 11:06 AM ET
Ball State is suddenly aroused**
HwoodHokie 09/13/24 11:15 AM ET
Must be ‘xxxxx’ State to join. FSU has found its landing spot. **
D-Day 09/13/24 09:06 AM ET
Colorado State Announcement
HOO86 09/12/24 07:23 PM ET
I wonder how aggressive the new PAC will be in expanding
HokieAl 09/12/24 05:59 PM ET
I don't think so. they just got the top 4 brands from the Mountain West. I
Big12 guy 09/12/24 08:16 PM ET
Time may not be on the Pac-X's side though. Particularly if they end up
VTHokie2000 09/12/24 08:21 PM ET
I also don’t think they have much time. First goal is to get to 8 teams
HokieAl 09/12/24 08:52 PM ET
What am I missing? By taking only the top 4 Mountain West schools, they are
Big12 guy 09/12/24 08:33 PM ET
There is always the possibility that the leftover AAC schools, ACC schools,
VTHokie2000 09/12/24 11:33 PM ET
While I understand the need for 8, if they didn't think they could
Big12 guy 09/13/24 07:54 AM ET
I think your view on this is a bit biased. The fact that
Big12 guy 09/13/24 08:40 AM ET
When did I ever say that either school was a candidate for the Big XII?
VTHokie2000 09/13/24 08:55 AM ET
OK, you didn't explicitly state that about New Mexico of UNLV, but even
Big12 guy 09/13/24 09:06 AM ET
WRT the reasons why UNLV isn't on the ACC's radar, I will give you the ONE
VTHokie2000 09/13/24 09:20 AM ET
Right. A valid reason in the old days. It's why the original PAC12
Big12 guy 09/13/24 09:27 AM ET
What you either don't understand or seem to be missing is that for the ACC
VTHokie2000 09/13/24 09:43 AM ET
I understand. The ACC is academically superior to the SEC
Big12 guy 09/13/24 09:50 AM ET
I was merely responding to your statement, "A valid reason in the old days"
VTHokie2000 09/13/24 09:54 AM ET
The old PAC12 certainly did. **
Big12 guy 09/13/24 09:58 AM ET
Academics could end up being the reason that Cal and Stanford don't end up
VTHokie2000 09/13/24 10:01 AM ET
I don't think that is what the new PAC is going for. **
Big12 guy 09/13/24 10:02 AM ET
It doesn't mean that Oregon State and/or Wazzou don't hope they can't be
VTHokie2000 09/13/24 10:15 AM ET
Dan Wolken wrote an article yesterday for the USA Today which talks about
VTHokie2000 09/13/24 08:27 AM ET
Hawai'i would be a likely candidate. Unless something has changed recently
VTHokie2000 09/13/24 08:02 AM ET
FWIW the rules clearly state that if the Pac-X wants to still be considered
VTHokie2000 09/12/24 08:02 PM ET
2 things 1) quality for a D1 FBS and be a power 4
1947Sunbowl 09/13/24 08:57 AM ET
I believe the Pac has already lost its power conference status. At least
VTHokie2000 09/13/24 09:12 AM ET
Their brand is the PAC 12. **
Big12 guy 09/12/24 08:33 PM ET
It doesn't matter if the conference's brand is the Pac-8, Pac-10, Pac-12,
VTHokie2000 09/12/24 11:46 PM ET
It will go down as a brazen act of misplaced hubris-
Baltimore_Hokie 09/12/24 04:02 PM ET
Oh, they entertained it. It was included as an option in the scheduling
33laszlo99 09/12/24 07:15 PM ET
Nope-this is a relegationmove by Boise, Fresno, SDSU CSU
PadrosWindup 09/12/24 06:28 PM ET
UNLV, Memphis, Texas State, and San Jose State or Nevada would round it out**
Baltimore_Hokie 09/13/24 10:24 AM ET
Well I'm taking State to dominate the new PAC**
Vippie1 09/12/24 03:44 PM ET
Sounds like maybe Dr. Pepper is sponsoring the conference. **
Big12 guy 09/12/24 04:12 PM ET
Do you know what the out clause is for Stanford &Cal in the ACC? Since they
Stech 09/12/24 03:23 PM ET
interesting question; one comment Pac 12 will not be a Power 4 conference
1947Sunbowl 09/12/24 08:27 PM ET
I assume it is the same as everyone else.
HOO86 09/12/24 03:39 PM ET
I would think UNLV was high on their list. I wonder if they are holding out
reestuart 09/12/24 02:46 PM ET
Nevada legislature is trying to force UNLV and UNR package
HOO86 09/12/24 08:51 PM ET
Las Vegas State would've got in. ;)
Old Line Hokie 09/12/24 07:42 PM ET
Right now, I think, The PAC just wants to get an eight-team conference
33laszlo99 09/12/24 06:07 PM ET
I think their dream scenario is the four from the AAC.
Truthahn 09/13/24 12:15 PM ET
We live in some crazy times when Memphis and South Florida could end up in
VTHokie2000 09/12/24 08:06 PM ET
ACC would be stupid to let USF go.
HOO86 09/12/24 08:55 PM ET
I wish the ACC would get both USF and eventually UCF. The war on I4.**
OrlandoHokie 09/13/24 09:44 AM ET
I have always enjoyed that rivalry. I was surprised the Big XII didn't add
VTHokie2000 09/13/24 09:57 AM ET
Oliver Luck advised the Big XII
HOO86 09/13/24 12:24 PM ET
USF's value may in part be depended upon having UCF in the same conference.
VTHokie2000 09/13/24 01:46 PM ET
Maybe, but when the B12 invited USC and not USF, they did
Big12 guy 09/13/24 01:54 PM ET
WRT empty stadiums, isn't UCF's stadium located in a "bad part of town" or
VTHokie2000 09/13/24 04:12 PM ET
I don't know the attendance history. What I do know is that schools
Big12 guy 09/13/24 04:34 PM ET
Well the ACC has a history of making stupid decisions.**
VTHokie2000 09/12/24 11:34 PM ET
Why would the Big XII want UNLV?
Pylons 09/12/24 03:00 PM ET
Sure, Las Vegas. I don't think the Big XII necessarily wants them, but I
reestuart 09/12/24 03:46 PM ET
Colorado State may make more sense in that they have
Big12 guy 09/12/24 04:09 PM ET
FWIW a reason the NHL agreed to Las Vegas having an expansion franchise
VTHokie2000 09/12/24 07:53 PM ET
It hasn't yet. That being said, Yormark may move the B12
Big12 guy 09/12/24 08:10 PM ET
I believe last year or this year was/is the first season UNLV played its
VTHokie2000 09/12/24 08:15 PM ET
their stadium looks really nice. **
reestuart 09/12/24 04:34 PM ET
I would think at this point it's more about overall media eyeballs
Pylons 09/12/24 04:03 PM ET
That moved quick to official status. Next 2-4 teams are probably ready **
HokieAl 09/12/24 02:26 PM ET
FSU, come on down! TIC**
MP4VT2004 09/12/24 07:22 PM ET
Being official will bring a shake up in the G5 space. While it will
Big12 guy 09/12/24 02:21 PM ET