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Maybe, but when the B12 invited USC and not USF, they did

not have their own stadium. It's important for television to not have empty stadiums on national TV. They have had brief success in football, and reside in a fertile recruiting ground. I think they could turn their sports programs around with good coaching, but that NIL money thing may hold them back. They are AAU, and to some, that is still pretty important. As a b12 guy, I thought 2 in Florida would be better than one, as UCF could definitely use a travel partner for the non revs.
Posted: 09/13/2024 at 01:54 PM ET
(In response to this post by VTHokie2000)

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San Diego State, Colorado State, Fresno State, and Boise State join PAC-12
HOO86 • 09/12/24 02:14 PM ET
Hmmm, an all state conference.**
IB4TECH • 09/13/24 11:06 AM ET
Ball State is suddenly aroused**
HwoodHokie • 09/13/24 11:15 AM ET
Must be ‘xxxxx’ State to join. FSU has found its landing spot. **
D-Day • 09/13/24 09:06 AM ET
Colorado State Announcement
HOO86 • 09/12/24 07:23 PM ET
I wonder how aggressive the new PAC will be in expanding
HokieAl • 09/12/24 05:59 PM ET
I don't think so. they just got the top 4 brands from the Mountain West. I
Big12 guy • 09/12/24 08:16 PM ET
Time may not be on the Pac-X's side though. Particularly if they end up
VTHokie2000 • 09/12/24 08:21 PM ET
I also don’t think they have much time. First goal is to get to 8 teams
HokieAl • 09/12/24 08:52 PM ET
What am I missing? By taking only the top 4 Mountain West schools, they are
Big12 guy • 09/12/24 08:33 PM ET
There is always the possibility that the leftover AAC schools, ACC schools,
VTHokie2000 • 09/12/24 11:33 PM ET
While I understand the need for 8, if they didn't think they could
Big12 guy • 09/13/24 07:54 AM ET
I think your view on this is a bit biased. The fact that
Big12 guy • 09/13/24 08:40 AM ET
When did I ever say that either school was a candidate for the Big XII?
VTHokie2000 • 09/13/24 08:55 AM ET
OK, you didn't explicitly state that about New Mexico of UNLV, but even
Big12 guy • 09/13/24 09:06 AM ET
WRT the reasons why UNLV isn't on the ACC's radar, I will give you the ONE
VTHokie2000 • 09/13/24 09:20 AM ET
Right. A valid reason in the old days. It's why the original PAC12
Big12 guy • 09/13/24 09:27 AM ET
What you either don't understand or seem to be missing is that for the ACC
VTHokie2000 • 09/13/24 09:43 AM ET
I understand. The ACC is academically superior to the SEC
Big12 guy • 09/13/24 09:50 AM ET
I was merely responding to your statement, "A valid reason in the old days"
VTHokie2000 • 09/13/24 09:54 AM ET
The old PAC12 certainly did. **
Big12 guy • 09/13/24 09:58 AM ET
Academics could end up being the reason that Cal and Stanford don't end up
VTHokie2000 • 09/13/24 10:01 AM ET
I don't think that is what the new PAC is going for. **
Big12 guy • 09/13/24 10:02 AM ET
It doesn't mean that Oregon State and/or Wazzou don't hope they can't be
VTHokie2000 • 09/13/24 10:15 AM ET
Dan Wolken wrote an article yesterday for the USA Today which talks about
VTHokie2000 • 09/13/24 08:27 AM ET
Hawai'i would be a likely candidate. Unless something has changed recently
VTHokie2000 • 09/13/24 08:02 AM ET
FWIW the rules clearly state that if the Pac-X wants to still be considered
VTHokie2000 • 09/12/24 08:02 PM ET
2 things 1) quality for a D1 FBS and be a power 4
1947Sunbowl • 09/13/24 08:57 AM ET
I believe the Pac has already lost its power conference status. At least
VTHokie2000 • 09/13/24 09:12 AM ET
Their brand is the PAC 12. **
Big12 guy • 09/12/24 08:33 PM ET
It doesn't matter if the conference's brand is the Pac-8, Pac-10, Pac-12,
VTHokie2000 • 09/12/24 11:46 PM ET
It will go down as a brazen act of misplaced hubris-
Baltimore_Hokie • 09/12/24 04:02 PM ET
Oh, they entertained it. It was included as an option in the scheduling
33laszlo99 • 09/12/24 07:15 PM ET
Nope-this is a relegationmove by Boise, Fresno, SDSU CSU
PadrosWindup • 09/12/24 06:28 PM ET
UNLV, Memphis, Texas State, and San Jose State or Nevada would round it out**
Baltimore_Hokie • 09/13/24 10:24 AM ET
Well I'm taking State to dominate the new PAC**
Vippie1 • 09/12/24 03:44 PM ET
Sounds like maybe Dr. Pepper is sponsoring the conference. **
Big12 guy • 09/12/24 04:12 PM ET
Do you know what the out clause is for Stanford &Cal in the ACC? Since they
Stech • 09/12/24 03:23 PM ET
interesting question; one comment Pac 12 will not be a Power 4 conference
1947Sunbowl • 09/12/24 08:27 PM ET
I assume it is the same as everyone else.
HOO86 • 09/12/24 03:39 PM ET
I would think UNLV was high on their list. I wonder if they are holding out
reestuart • 09/12/24 02:46 PM ET
Nevada legislature is trying to force UNLV and UNR package
HOO86 • 09/12/24 08:51 PM ET
Las Vegas State would've got in. ;)
Old Line Hokie • 09/12/24 07:42 PM ET
Right now, I think, The PAC just wants to get an eight-team conference
33laszlo99 • 09/12/24 06:07 PM ET
I think their dream scenario is the four from the AAC.
Truthahn • 09/13/24 12:15 PM ET
We live in some crazy times when Memphis and South Florida could end up in
VTHokie2000 • 09/12/24 08:06 PM ET
ACC would be stupid to let USF go.
HOO86 • 09/12/24 08:55 PM ET
I wish the ACC would get both USF and eventually UCF. The war on I4.**
OrlandoHokie • 09/13/24 09:44 AM ET
I have always enjoyed that rivalry. I was surprised the Big XII didn't add
VTHokie2000 • 09/13/24 09:57 AM ET
Oliver Luck advised the Big XII
HOO86 • 09/13/24 12:24 PM ET
USF's value may in part be depended upon having UCF in the same conference.
VTHokie2000 • 09/13/24 01:46 PM ET
Maybe, but when the B12 invited USC and not USF, they did ◄
Big12 guy • 09/13/24 01:54 PM ET
WRT empty stadiums, isn't UCF's stadium located in a "bad part of town" or
VTHokie2000 • 09/13/24 04:12 PM ET
I don't know the attendance history. What I do know is that schools
Big12 guy • 09/13/24 04:34 PM ET
Well the ACC has a history of making stupid decisions.**
VTHokie2000 • 09/12/24 11:34 PM ET
Why would the Big XII want UNLV?
Pylons • 09/12/24 03:00 PM ET
Sure, Las Vegas. I don't think the Big XII necessarily wants them, but I
reestuart • 09/12/24 03:46 PM ET
Colorado State may make more sense in that they have
Big12 guy • 09/12/24 04:09 PM ET
FWIW a reason the NHL agreed to Las Vegas having an expansion franchise
VTHokie2000 • 09/12/24 07:53 PM ET
It hasn't yet. That being said, Yormark may move the B12
Big12 guy • 09/12/24 08:10 PM ET
I believe last year or this year was/is the first season UNLV played its
VTHokie2000 • 09/12/24 08:15 PM ET
their stadium looks really nice. **
reestuart • 09/12/24 04:34 PM ET
I would think at this point it's more about overall media eyeballs
Pylons • 09/12/24 04:03 PM ET
That moved quick to official status. Next 2-4 teams are probably ready **
HokieAl • 09/12/24 02:26 PM ET
FSU, come on down! TIC**
MP4VT2004 • 09/12/24 07:22 PM ET
Being official will bring a shake up in the G5 space. While it will
Big12 guy • 09/12/24 02:21 PM ET