I love my Wrangler, and it's actually been a real workhouse both commuting and getting over the Alleghenies in the Winter. It will go up the muddy well road to get the canoes, it goes through snow, and it's fun to drive. But I know I got one of the 20% of Wranglers that won't be trouble from Day One. What does really irk me is that damn visor. Who in their right mind thought the crappy piece of plastic would not break? My wife badly wants a Grand Cherokee Limited. Do we roll the dice? I guess a factor for the JGC is that apparently the new 2l turbo engine in the Grand Highlander is a worse POS than anything Stellantis makes.