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For real!

We have been looking at nicer 4x4 vehicles in the Grand Highlander/Pilot/Grand Cherokee family of vehicles. As far as ride and really nice features, the JGC stands head and shoulders above the crowd. The Grand Highlander just feels.....not cheap, but it's just not a JGC as far as style and comfort. Toyota's quality has also gone down. The Pilot does not have enough room. Jeep in general has had a lot of issues with the electrical systems that are probably solvable with better design and QC. The Wrangler will always be popular, so they don't seem too much in a hurry to do anything with that. But come on, that visor design smacks of lazy and cheap. My Wrangler is tank. It can take a beating. Well, everything but that crappy piece of cheap metal and plastic that probably saved a penny.
Posted: 06/06/2025 at 04:46 AM ET
(In response to this post by MAHokie69)

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EDGEMAN 06/05/25 11:28 AM ET
Wish they'd bring back the SRT8 Jeep Grand Cherokee.... **
Vtskier1 06/05/25 01:54 PM ET
They should bring back Plymouth, especially The Fury and Super Bee. **
section11hokie 06/05/25 01:19 PM ET
And make them RWD with a V8 under the hood!
EDGEMAN 06/05/25 01:21 PM ET
Agreed, Maybe the 6 speed manual like the one in the new Dodge Challengers**
section11hokie 06/05/25 01:26 PM ET
FWIW our BraunAbility Toyota Sienna arrived from California on Monday...
Major Kong 06/05/25 01:04 PM ET
Stellantis can't even design a Wrangler sun visor that doesn't break
Happy Dog 06/05/25 12:40 PM ET
Seriously. What he really needs is a reliability studio**
MAHokie69 06/05/25 02:54 PM ET
For real!
Happy Dog 06/06/25 04:46 AM ET
If they aren't going to design a sun visor that lasts...
EDGEMAN 06/05/25 01:19 PM ET
I know the answer to this!
Happy Dog 06/05/25 01:49 PM ET
Honda Pilot all the way....**
UTPr0sim 06/05/25 01:02 PM ET
Our 2010 is still doing great.**
AZHokie59 06/05/25 04:29 PM ET
I have a 2006 Pilot still running
Happy Dog 06/05/25 01:10 PM ET
Still driving a 2007 Pilot. Best vehicle I've ever owned
Hokie Fiji 06/05/25 01:55 PM ET
That reminds me...saw a vehicle with an independent dealer tag that...
EDGEMAN 06/05/25 02:26 PM ET
I really liked the size of the earlier Pilots...
EDGEMAN 06/05/25 01:24 PM ET
Pilot has had an unflattering evolution
Happy Dog 06/05/25 01:44 PM ET
My wife drives a '21 GCL. She loves it, and it's had no problems so far in
Brown Water 06/05/25 12:55 PM ET
Wow looks exactly like my first Dodge Caravan in 1989...**
UTPr0sim 06/05/25 11:54 AM ET
Guess their design studio hasn't changed much since then...
EDGEMAN 06/05/25 12:19 PM ET